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[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 116 points 6 months ago

It's "funny" how this was a complete non-issue here in France, but when the American right made trans people their next target after their abortion win, it suddenly became a huge problem for the French right as well.

These people constantly complain about American cultural hegemony, but they still make an exception for Trump and this kind of shit. Out of all the cool things coming out of the US, this is what you tolerate? I'm so sick of these spiteful assholes...

[-] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 30 points 6 months ago

So much this. Our rightwing is hellbent on importing every single moral panic from the US to detract from their blunders and authoritarianism.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Trans people and cross dressers are EVERYWHERE (I mean worldwide). It feels like they have only been newsworthy for the last decade or maybe even less.

You might say this is a stupid analogy but when the US comes up with a bad political idea (like making transgender people front and center) it kind of feels like that US politicians are the "Apple of their industry" and many of the Android OEM (other politicians) just copy their bad ideas without understanding the intent Apple had.

By the way, I miss headphone ports on smartphones.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

There was an American woman named Christine Jorgensen who went to Europe and was the first American to publicly admit to getting reassignment surgery in 1945, so that was pretty newsworthy.

Thankfully, she had an overall good life and she worked tirelessly for trans rights. I can't even imagine what some right-wing bigots would say about her now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

"Newsworthy.*

Quickly, without googling, what percentage of the human population do you believe is trans? Or first, what percent do you think it should be in order to make it "newsworthy "? Maybe 10%? Gotta be, right? Seems like they're everywhere... No? Maybe 3% give or take? 1%?

Try 1/2 of 1%. Is that "newsworthy" enough to make a few thousand kids suicidal?

Meanwhile, auto accidents is no longer the number one cause of death amongst the youth in the US, it has been supplanted by firearms.

But that's just not "newsworthy" enough to do something about? Isn't this about the safety of the children?

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There were other terms for being trans such as the indigenous American word two spirit or the Arabic Mukhannath. There was an African one where a woman would become a third gender in order to own land but I forgot the term.

Edit: Here is a link about the genders in Judiasm, https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-eight-genders-in-the-talmud/

I meant everywhere as in trans is not just a recent concept someone made up.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah Hijra, Kathoey, two spirit, femineillo… One thing (ok two spirit is a lot of things, but this is one) interpreted through many cultural lenses. We are everywhere, we have always been. It has often been difficult for us, but for fucks sake it doesn’t have to be.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 months ago

i don't think it's so much americans as it is the rise of the european populist far right seizing upon a vulnerable minority to get into power.

yes they share a lot of the same funding, but you shouldn't ignore europe's role in this

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah the Hapsburgs have funded American transphobia

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

~~Hapsburgs~~ Kremlin and Christians

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

but when the American right made trans people their next target after their abortion win

WTF? When were trans people not the target of the american right?

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Sure, but from where I am it sure seems like they became the main target. Anti-trans rethoric picked up a lot in the last few months.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Back when they were still holding slaves and had their attention occupied elsewhere.

[-] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As if liberals and socialists haven't tossed everything else aside to try and be as 'good' as possible by the standards of the american left/liberals twitter brigade

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