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[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

"the current leader needs to stop fascist activities by behaving exactly like a fascist!"

[-] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

Application of authority, believe it or not, is sometimes completely justified

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

and who determines the "sometimes" when it is "justified"? does that happen only when it is done against the guy you don't like?

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

No, it happens when the guy I don't like does crimes.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

it happens when the guy I don't like does crimes.

you do realise that's the exact idea used by every fascist from Mao to Mussolini to Modi, right?

who determines that actions taken are crimes? should there not be due process that measures them against the law before such a distinction--such a judgement, one may say--is made?

or should anyone be able to point a finger willy-nilly at anyone else claiming them to be a criminal and to start doling out the lynchrope?

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I agree with you 100 percent, but they allllllll do crimes, dude(ette).

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"How Democracies Die" goes into this in quite a bit of detail. Once the fascists start breaking the rules, there's a terrible temptation to start fighting back in kind, violating norms like the one against politically motivated prosecutions dictated by the executive branch, which it's easy to decide it's time to start breaking, because we have to do something or else they might take over the fucking country. Breaking those rules is one of the last stages in the collapse of the democratic system which will hasten the fascist takeover, though. It must not be done. As counterintuitive as it sounds, you have to fight the uphill battle continuing to obey the rules against people who are breaking them. It sucks but in most cases it's the only move that leads to any good outcome.

Biden is doing the right thing by staying out of the prosecutions and letting the DOJ for some awful fuckin reason handle them at the same glacial pace that it handles everything. Why they're doing that, I don't know, but Biden is right to stay out of it.

this post was submitted on 11 May 2024
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