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Biden needs to stop this fascist takeover by putting Trump in jail or by giving Trump massive fines so he can't campaign properly. Kick him off the ballot in various states. That will show that fascist who's boss. Make cnn or msnbc write hit pieces on Trump, non-stop. Nice.
Biden can't do those things. Trump did some of them to himself, but Biden can't.
Biden has done every one of these things already, and way, way more. That's why I wrote this post in that way, so people might make the connection.
I'm sorry to say someone lied to you, it's really unfortunate. Biden cannot do the things you say due to seperation of powers, Trump ended up getting himself into those situations through his own actions.
Be better than the person who lied to you about this stuff, stop spreading their lies.
You think Trumps mugshot (him in jail) was not politically motivated? You think the legal fines and all that time in court is not politically motivated or simply to keep him away from the campaign trail? You don't think they will do everything to "disqualify" him, this includes kicking him off the ballot? You don't think cnn, msnbc, nyt, wapo writes hit pieces, are politically motivated?
It would be nice to be as oblivious as you.
I know it's hard to accept that people you trust have been telling you lies, but once you consider it you'll recognize the simplest explanation is that Trump did those things to himself, by committing the actions he was accused of, and he is being treated like anyone else would be in those situations.
Clearly you're smart, but someone is treating you like your stupid. Be better than them.
I think you're right about them being politically motivated, simply because other politicians have gotten away with far worse than most of what he's being charged with.
But lets take a look at some of what he's not being charged with.
Trump encouraged the J6 "protesters" to become violent with thinly veiled language. I watched it happen in real time.
He refused to denounce political extremists, instead asking them to "Stand back and stand by." I watched that happen live, too.
He suggested injecting bleach to fight the corona virus. Live.
He bragged about passing a basic cognitive test by repeating "Man, Woman, Person, Camera, TV" once again, live.
He let US citizens die by withholding pandemic aid to states that he felt weren't aligned with him politically.
I could go on (and on) but I think I've made my point.
I don't care what the motivations are. Bury the motherfucker.
In western democracies, the leader doesn't have the power to throw people in jail.
What are you talking about we have blacksites all over the world filled with people who were never tried.
They forgot a word in their comment. The leader does not have the power to throw rich people in jail.
Yet! Oh, well, I guess it is no longer a democracy if SCOTUS goes that way, so still no.
That's pretty naive.
"the current leader needs to stop fascist activities by behaving exactly like a fascist!"
Application of authority, believe it or not, is sometimes completely justified
and who determines the "sometimes" when it is "justified"? does that happen only when it is done against the guy you don't like?
No, it happens when the guy I don't like does crimes.
you do realise that's the exact idea used by every fascist from Mao to Mussolini to Modi, right?
who determines that actions taken are crimes? should there not be due process that measures them against the law before such a distinction--such a judgement, one may say--is made?
or should anyone be able to point a finger willy-nilly at anyone else claiming them to be a criminal and to start doling out the lynchrope?
I agree with you 100 percent, but they allllllll do crimes, dude(ette).
"How Democracies Die" goes into this in quite a bit of detail. Once the fascists start breaking the rules, there's a terrible temptation to start fighting back in kind, violating norms like the one against politically motivated prosecutions dictated by the executive branch, which it's easy to decide it's time to start breaking, because we have to do something or else they might take over the fucking country. Breaking those rules is one of the last stages in the collapse of the democratic system which will hasten the fascist takeover, though. It must not be done. As counterintuitive as it sounds, you have to fight the uphill battle continuing to obey the rules against people who are breaking them. It sucks but in most cases it's the only move that leads to any good outcome.
Biden is doing the right thing by staying out of the prosecutions and letting the DOJ for some awful fuckin reason handle them at the same glacial pace that it handles everything. Why they're doing that, I don't know, but Biden is right to stay out of it.