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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4551711

The USA senate has 2 fasces. You cannot get more obvious than that

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[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

A little dumb, a little "and here we see how the ideological seeds that underpin colonialism eventually mature into fascism"

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not really at all. TBH, the fasces as a symbol is downright contrary to American ideology. It's a symbol of collective strength through societal unity, but America is so embroiled in its cult of individualism that the idea of achieving a collective good through collective power is practically alien. (Of course then again, Italians never really lived up to the purported ideals of fascism either, so maybe it's not so out of place.)

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

American ideology is contradictory as hell haha

There's definitely the "I do what I want" aspect of it, but there's also tons of blind patriotism and willingness to sacrifice for the country (to say nothing of the half-mythical idea that the colonies were these fully independent sovereigns that chose to join together). I do think the former has been gaining serious ground since at least the 70s.

[-] rio@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

It’s a symbol of the estruscan kings and Roman magistrates right to order public floggings with sticks or beheadings with axes

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

My bad, I'd learned that it was a symbol of unity, like the people being stronger unified like the tied sticks.

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