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It’s far from ideal, but the problem is that we let it roll back every 4-8 years. If Democrats consistently won due to progressive policies, the candidates would inevitably become more progressive to capture more of the constituency. Disengagement and disenfranchisement consistently cause the boulder to fall, leading to the lack of overall progress.
And because that doesn't happen, I just have to assume that Americans aren't nearly as progressive as everybody on the Internet thinks they are.
Don’t underestimate the efficacy of voter disenfranchisement and disengagement. Republicans don’t need to prop up Trump. People who loath him will vote for him simply due to party loyalty. Discrediting Biden is all it takes for a win.
So everybody has to vote for someone they hate otherwise the other guy they hate will be in power.
Great democracy everybody. Glad the wrong lizard didn't win.
I’m not defending the system. I’m suggesting we use it until we have a better option.
Whether you realize it or not, comments like that drive disengagement. It imparts hopelessness, which leads some to apathy.
Which makes sense because I'm definitely hopeless
That’s fair. Try not to advocate hopelessness. It just hurts others.
You're right. It's important to keep negative feelings to yourself. Cram them right down in the pit of your stomach and then smile and say "Yeah, this is exactly the sort of government I want and if you have a problem with it then you're a bad person."
You don’t need to play martyr. Get some help if you really want to address it. Trying to convince others to feel hopeless along with you won’t make you feel any better, and it can hurt others in the process.
Making people hopeful only to have their hopes crushed in the next election is a great way to get them to give up on voting
Voting should be emotionless. It’s a civic responsibility to make a logical decision to benefit yourself and those you care about. Vote for whomever will do that more. Don’t expect perfect representation at that level of government.
Which is exactly what I've been saying this entire time: Vote, but don't expect it to help.
The strategy of telling voters that they can vote for change is what's caused Millennials and Gen Z to check out. Don't tell people our government is responsive or effective, because it isn't and then they'll get the wrong idea about how government actually works. Don't tell them they can vote for Hope & Change, because those aren't things our government provides.