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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 150 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here's a Neil Gaiman thing to balance things out

[-] randomsnark@lemmy.ml 60 points 6 months ago

I was going to say that's actually a G K Chesterton quote, but it turns out it's more complicated than that. Neil Gaiman himself said it was from Chesterton (when quoting it at the start of Coraline), but he wrote it from memory and didn't double check, so the original is worded differently. At least, that's how my quick googling claims the paraphrase happened. The misquote is pithier than the original so... is it now a Gaiman quote, even though it originates as an attempted Chesterton quote?

As far as I can tell, the passage he was thinking of was:

Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey. What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon.

  • G K Chesterton, Tremendous Trifles (1909)
[-] classic@fedia.io 45 points 6 months ago

Interestingly, on Gaiman and attribution, he came out with a graphic novel, The Books of Magic, with a main character very similar to Harry Potter. This was 7 years prior to Rowlings publishing the first book. His response to that similarity was equally charitable, chalking it to creators tapping into the same unconscious material. Dude seems to have integrity. I could see another person grousing at the parallels between the two.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago

Neil Gaiman was close friends with the legendary Terry Pratchett. There's no doubt he's a better human being than Joanne.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

Wait, if Terry Pratchett is just a legend, who wrote all those Discworld novels??

[-] Username@feddit.de 24 points 6 months ago

They probably just manifested in the library one day. That, or they are taken from L-space.

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Wizard did it.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 6 months ago

Interestingly, on Gaiman and attribution, he came out with a graphic novel, The Books of Magic, with a main character very similar to Harry Potter. This was 7 years prior to Rowlings publishing the first book. His response to that similarity was equally charitable, chalking it to creators tapping into the same unconscious material.

Before either you had Luke Kirby in 2000AD. While it's debatable whether Rowling would have been reading Vertigo comic books, Gaiman wrote for 2000AD.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Interesting. When I was around 4 years old I suffered from debilitating nightmares to the point of refusing to go to sleep. Coincidentally, this was also when I came into contact with my first games (Amiga 500 at the time, I'm ancient) and somehow that "taught" my mind that you can fight back against the baddies and win. Never suffered from nightmares ever after that point.

[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This quote always goes hand in hand with that one for me.

Since it is so likely that (children) will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage. Otherwise you are making their destiny not brighter but darker.

C.S. Lewis

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 months ago

JK Rowling can be beaten.

And defeated as well if you want to do that.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

She can write pulp

but she can also be pulp

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

How can I use Lemmy in such a way that I see more Neil Gaiman than JK Rowling? Any tips?

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 13 points 6 months ago
[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 6 months ago

First link didn't work for me but second link did. Spelling mistake or something?

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I think they're saying "You could start that community, which doesn't currently exist."

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 6 months ago

Oh duh lol 😂

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 6 months ago

At first I thought a simple find replace would work but then G man would be spouting all sorts of trash. We'd have to inject actual stories from a webscrape. or just ban the word Jk Rowling in the settings idk

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