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Sounds impressive but this should really be the baseline for non enthusiast CPU temps and power draw if x86 processors weren't so inefficient.
30 C (86 F) should be baseline at load? Lol. This thing is severely underclocked if that is the temp at load. Laptop processors basically run at 90 C
But should they run at 90c? They certainly don't have to, and it would sure be nice to just use much more efficient chips that don't produce all that waste heat and burn through power.
Then imagine how cool they could get if software devs actually cared about efficiency
RETVRN TO TRADITION: When ram was measured in KB and video game had to load and run off of a floppy disk.
Oh I didn't read the at load part. It's perfectly reasonable at idle and low load applications.
Yeah right. I'll believe it when I see it tested independently.
Genuinely seems farfetched.
Or it's just shitty small cores? Even China's best core designes are 10 years behind, even tho they have great tech in some small aspects like their branch prediction system
Source: Chips and Cheese, a hardware engineering analysis website
lol you are absolutely taking the piss if you think these are only comparable to Haswell. Orientalist bias is pouring off of this statement from your 9 day old account with an entire 2 comments ever made. The Chinese brainpan just can't possibly compete!
I replied to you with this account.
I would also like to note that the FIRST comment I made with that acc was in defense of China. EDIT: I deleted it actually but I was defending against the Xinjiang bullshit
10 years is still absolutely ridiculous and you should feel silly for having said that. At most they're 1 generation behind. Comparing them to Haswell? HASWELL? Really?
I think you know this was silly and why it provoked a reaction from me.
Haswell is actually not an ancient core, lot's of the tech used in Haswell is still relevant today. Fuck, it took RiscV years until they had anything comparable to Haswell's SIMD.
Their core designs are more or less way behind, because they needed to learn and create lots of infrastructure technology. Read the Chips and Cheese article on the latest Loongson cores, even tho they have impressive technology in some aspects, the core design is way behind AMD or even Intel.
Zhaoxin is also a bad joke.
Kirin in particular is ARM based and they at least have access to ARM core designs, so it's a surely better situation than fully domestic projects. But still, more single core performance is incredibly hard to achieve, and don't be surprised to learn that these CPUs are only capable of simple tasks.
I'm an Iranian computer engineer and a ProleWiki contributor. I'm not coming from a place of malice, I'm stating the facts of the matter on Chinese technology.
x86 is bad with power efficiency, ARM is much better. Some ARM Apple laptops don't have a cooler, even.