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Palestinians are at #8.

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[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 months ago

So you're saying you have no sympathy for Palestinians who dislike the IDF, who have been continuously murdering them and stealing their land? That is what you're saying right?

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago

I'm saying I have no sympathy for Palestinians who can't sympathise with other people who were forced from their homes, or Israelis who can't do the same. They are free to dislike the IDF, but using them as an excuse to hate Jews and/or Israelis is no better than the people who hate all Palestinians and/or Arabs masking or justifying it with their hatred of Hamas.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

It's not the same, because Israel are systematic colonizers. IDF acts on behalf of Israel. Sure, not all Israelis have the same political opinions, but ultimately they are living in a country that is committed to genocide of Palestinians. Lots of countries hate the United States for extremely valid reasons and I do have sympathy and ultimately agree with their hatred of Americans, even though I am one.

[-] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago
[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

It makes sense to support the Arabs who got displaced ...if you're a member of one of those groups

If you're a Palestinian

if you're a member of one of those groups and can't sympathize with the other (eg ... IDF)

If you're a Palestinian who can't sympathize with the IDF

...then you should get no sympathy at all.

If you're a Palestinian who can't sympathize with the IDF, then you should get no sympathy at all .

So, again, you're saying you have no sympathy for Palestinians who dislike the IDF, who have been continuously murdering them and stealing their land?

[-] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Disclaimer, I'm a third party to this argument.

As far as I can see that's a misunderstanding.

If you're a member of one of those groups [Palestinian, Israeli], who can't sympathize with the other [Israeli, Palestinian]... e.g. IDF (Israelis who can't sympathize with Palestinians), Hamas (Palestinians who can't sympathize with Israelis)

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ah I see, honestly my interpretation still stands. Not every Palestinian who can't sympathize with Israelis is Hamas. Hamas was an example given (because that's what e.g. means), but based on what they said, they're referring to any Palestinian who lacks sympathy. They didn't say only Hamas. And this poster is conflating those two separate but overlapping groups of people, which is also fucked up.

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