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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Yeah, because it's SUPER helpful to call for the fire to be put out after the house has burned down 🙄

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

So there's no one left to kill? Or you just don't care about them?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

That strawman was ridiculous when the other person built it and it still is.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

How is it a strawman? The goal of genocide is to kill/remove all the people. You claimed the house is already burned down, very clearly implying that there is no one left to kill or no one who can go back.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

It's a strawman because you're ascribing a position that I haven't taken to me in an effort to make it seems like my argument has less merit than it actually does. That's the definition of a strawman and that's what you did.

You claimed the house is already burned down

Meaning that irreparable catastrophe has already occurred. Catastrophe that could have been avoided if not for the delayed reaction of her and other leading US politicians

very clearly implying that there is no one left to kill or no one who can go back.

Only to the most literal of bad faith interpretations. Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh, so the analogy is just terrible. The house hasn't burned down, it's just the fire looks like it's about to spread out of the garage, and you're saying its too late because it irreparable damage has already been done.

What the other poster is saying is that we can still save the rest of the house.

Although it should be clear that if you say the house has burned down, that means all of it and not just a small part.

[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 0 points 7 months ago

Oof, lemme just tell the living Gazans dont matter bc the same lemmy tankies as ever dont find them useful to their narrative if we help em. 😪

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

That's nowhere near what I said and you know it.

Strawmen and baselessly accusing anti-authoritarian pacifists of being tankies won't convince anyone that waiting 164 days to call for an end to a genocide is in any way acceptable.

[-] narp@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

Most politicians will play it safe and stick with the most popular opinion for their voter base, or just stay silent.

Sanders, AOC and the protesters helped to turn the tide, which is the reason some politicians speak out now. Those new voices will continue to change public opinion, force others to speak out and apply more pressure.

You rather want this not to happen?
I thought, getting people and politicians to agree that Israel needs to be stopped was the goal?

And why would it be "too late" while Palestinians are still dying?

[-] Globeparasite@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Ah yes, the underdogs of the current ruling party of the unites states turned the tide

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

You're right, it was the communists on Lemmy.

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

And why would it be “too late” while Palestinians are still dying

We should probably ask those who died.

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