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If you are a Libertarian and hold liberty as your core value, why do you not believe in universal healthcare? Nothing impacts liberty more than sickness and death. (lemmy.world)

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[+] HANN@sh.itjust.works -8 points 6 months ago

But corporations hold each other accountable. They have to compete for your trust. If corporation A does something shady then it's im their competitors interest to call them out in order to raise people's trust in themselves. There are also countless charities and third party sites to grade them. I can choose which programs I fund. I don't get any say in what government gets my taxes or what the government does with my taxes. What if I don't want to fund war but want my money to go to charity to help the poor? How effective is universal healthcare where you are?

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

Wow, you seriously still believe that corporations compete with eachother in the healthcare sector despite the fact that most insurance companies have a "network" specifically so that they don't have to compete with eachother? How is healthcare a competitive market that drives towards efficiency exactly? The more you privatise healthcare the lower life expectancy you get and the higher you all pay!

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

93% of stocks are owned by just 10% of people... They own all the companies, and are diversified... They aren't really competing with each other in any meaningful way

[+] HANN@sh.itjust.works -6 points 6 months ago

Then don't shop at those companies? Go buy produce at your local farmers market etc etc. You get to choose what you spend money on. Or you can start your own business if you feel there is a market gap. You cant start your own government.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I should go to my local farmer's market to sign up for Internet service, or to buy a cell phone? The big industries are so heavily dominated by massive colluding corporations that "don't shop there" is not a tenable solution.

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

The reason the government is garbage is because most of them are working for the corporations. If we heavily regulated the corporations and made it so they couldn't interfere with politics, the government would be better... They'd actually be working for the people and our interests, like they're supposed to

The problem isn't government, it's corporate control of the government

Privatizing things will always cost more because then you need to account for profits as well. Publicly controlled=x cost, privately controlled=x costs+profit for the rich

Even the most corrupt government employee is only getting a pay check (no profits). They make their corruption money by colluding with corporations and rich people

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Well said.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

Most people are not "free" enough under current system to shop at farmers markets haha

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