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[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 80 points 7 months ago

Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi."

[-] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’m saying this goes further!

Actually I feel kind of irked that this reply seems to just miss the part at the end of the paragraph that says “it is, literally, indistinguishable from who they are”

[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 25 points 7 months ago

I didn't miss it. I just don't see any need to be elaborate about the word nazi, although I do appreciate what a crushingly insulting description of them you gave

[-] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Scholars of fascism and nazism do it all the time! The target of quotes like that is supposed to be those who deliberately muddy the waters. The “call a nazi a nazi” principle is a blunt instrument, and there are other tools in the anti-nazi kit.

[some hours later…] ah, the quote is from AR Moxon, whom I happen to know is both (a) not remotely averse to going deeper on what makes the nazis, (b) distinctly averse to not going deeper

[-] corbin@awful.systems 4 points 6 months ago

Paraphrasing Santayana, we must understand why people become fascist, or else we will not understand how to prevent ourselves from making the same mistakes of dehumanization and black-and-white reasoning which characterize their piss-poor attempts at logic.

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