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[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's not really a word. Also it clearly implies something is inherent to "Caucasians" - I can't be bothered to do any clever wordplay on the other supposed racial categories, but I suspect any equivalent puns might be considered a little problematic, what what?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

It's not really a word

Since it's used to convey meaning using letters and people understand that meaning, it by any definition that matters IS a word.

Also it clearly implies something is inherent to "Caucasians"

No. "Particularly Caucasians" ≠ "all Caucasians".

I can't be bothered to do any clever wordplay on the other supposed racial categories

Good, because that would likely be punching down, unlike pointing out how audacious some white people are with their privilege.

but I suspect any equivalent puns might be considered a little problematic, what what?

No, they wouldn't be equivalent. Pointing out white privilege and criticizing those that wield it as both a sword and a shield is not the same as making fun of less privileged people or even white people who are aware of and don't exploit their privilege.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

It's not actually subjective. That's just how bigotry and privilege works 🤷

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 7 months ago
[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

I'm actually white, so the joke's on you.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago
[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

The only joke? That's a sad state of affairs.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I get where you’re coming from, but most people who talk about race based inequality aren’t racist against white people, nor do they use words like caucascity to attack all white people but only those who uphold race based power structures (which would be judges, politicians, elites etc)

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

So, racism bad, except against white people?

Lol no

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

So, racism bad, except against white people

Nope. Pointing out that someone is being racist isn't itself racist.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

I was referring to the whole "punching down" concept.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Still not racism against white people.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

No? Isn't the whole idea that it's okay to say things about white people that it isn't okay to say about other races?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nope. The idea is that it's okay to say things about white RACISTS that it would make no sense saying about any other people, white or not.

"White racist" isn't any more a race than for example "black embezzler" or "Japanese bigamist"

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

Ok, so if I say "man these Black criminals are ruining our city", then it's alright to backpedal when confronted and say "oh obviously I only meant specific Black people"?

Or, different example in the same sphere. Is it okay for a Black person to be racist against white people?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I've had it with your ridiculous strawmen. I've told you what you need to know (that white people aren't inherently racist and it's therefore not racist to call out racism, including racism specific to white racists) and you keep trying to twist it into something it's not.

I don't know if you're a racist yourself, if you're just a pedant, or if you really believe that you have a valid and important point, but you don't. Not even close.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I ask because, in the first example, that's basically your use of "caucasity" but with a different race. The second example is a classic one that proponents of the "punching down" philosophy use - people have told me they believe it's actually impossible for black people to be racist against whites, because that's "punching up".

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io -3 points 7 months ago

It's OK to create racial epithets if it's punching the right people.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

That's not really the right line to draw.

Using it satirically to point out hypocrisy is one thing, and that's fair (but you need to make it obvious). If people don't get it's a particular person's actions you're mocking then you're doing it wrong

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io -1 points 7 months ago

No need to mansplain it to me.

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