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Team Fortress 2 is now at a 15% review score due to the #FixTF2 movement
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What's the story? What's wrong with tf2
Bots and cheaters have completely overtaken it and the small community that still plays has finally had enough
You and I have very different concepts of small.
Surely that 70k would include the bots though? Like of it's 69,500 bots and 500 people then it seems fair to call it a small community
Na there is a lot of real players still playing.
Aus for example community servers get full quick, there is a pro league going with multiple divisions, and then those who try brave casual servers as well.
Aus alone would have over 500+ players regularly playing daily.
Check this video, bots count as players in the stats, the real player numbers are like 15k/10k.
https://youtu.be/2stmQfv93oQ
Not bad for a 20 years old game.
How is Valve pumping up the concurrent player count not a bigger news story? That is like the metric for calculating popularity of a game and Valve is openly fudging the numbers without anyone caring. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Because it's not Valve doing it
Yep, it's just random people running bots that trade keys for hats.
Botters have gone from aimbotting and afk item farming to basically crowding public lobbies with their bots, then using ai to voice spam slurs and "confessions of illegal activities" in the voice of people trying to bring attention to the bot problem. The botters have also done both doxxing (impersonating said people and spamming their personal info as well as using ai voice chat spam to get people to do vigilante action against innocent people), swatting (see previous), as well as using their majority in a server to kick anyone that tries to combat them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNxjTciIwig
That's so grim.
Valve just closing their eyes and ears like they do to all other shitty things being done by players on their platform.
What kind of dumb answer is that? So its either accept the way it is or shut the game down? There is no way to fix a thing? Can't work on anti cheat, better moderation, actual consequences for the assholes doing this, etc?
What is it with so many people crawling so deep up Valve's ass. They are not some holy company that loves you deeply.
And I'm not just talking about the tf2 situation. Valve turns a blind eye to a lot of things on their platform such as hate speech and groups that purely exist to harass people.
Why do i need to come up with a solution? I don't work at Valve. We're asking Valve to come up with a solution and do something. Its their game. Its their code.
And to pretend Valve is trying hard is very ignorant... the only thing they try hard is adding more hats and making sure the marketplace works.
Some people just have too much free time huh
If you join an official public server, there's an extremely high chance you'll join with cheater bots that spawn endless, aimbotting snipers. It's less of a problem on community servers as they're actively moderated by players, but official servers have to rely on vote kicking a fresh cheater bot every few minutes.
This is all done by some script kiddy group who apparently want to highlight Valve's deprecated support. Basically ruin the game until Valve fixes the game. There's also some measure of farming ingame item drops to sell for money, I think.