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Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict
(www.reuters.com)
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So the people who screamed about the scary, scary BLM protesters rioting due to what they (rightly) viewed as a miscarriage of justice now think rioting should happen because of what they (wrongly) view as a miscarriage of justice.
As usual, it's okay with they do it.
Everything. Is. A. Projection.
Literally everything. They're afriad of Land Back because they fear the Native peoples will take the land the same way the founders of America took it. They're afraid of equality because they think when Black people do better it must mean they themselves will be worse off because they cant imagine wealth without exploitation, the way they used to make wealth for themselves.
They took their stupid shot on Jan 6th and then they realized they were mostly larpers. Projection to the point of action.
They took their first (arguably second after Charlottesville or the Bible photo op BS) shot on Jan 6. Don’t think there won’t be a second attempt. They view this guy as a messiah and they view themselves as religious. Him not getting what they want is a dangerous combination. He’s already shown the “greater good” has no place in his world.
Beer Hall Putsch
It's kind of wild actually. When Trump talks about this case being "fixed," and the judge as being "corrupt," he's telling us exactly what's going on in his other trial with Trump appointee and person with no prior trial experience (if I recall correctly) before being appointed to her seat on (looks at notes) huh, the "United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida."
Wait a second...
The thing I think is the most irreconcilable, incompromisable, consistently demonstrated behavior of The Right in America is the blatant hypocrisy about nearly all of their planks. It's the thing that, when the next civil war comes, will allow me to pull the trigger on anyone wearing a red baseball cap with little remorse.
It's the same for their every. Single. Position. It makes me weary, and furious, depressed and pessimistic.
Don't forget Philando Castile, a legal gun owner who did exactly what the NRA said you should do when pulled over with a gun in the car and got shot. The NRA made barely a peep about it. Can't imagine white.
Fuck the NRA. The majority of gun owners who aren't NRA tit suckin cop fuckers, still are pissed about that injustice, same with Breonna Taylor and Kenneth Walker. Anyone suggesting the police are there for them and want to disarm us all, these cases and a bunch more like them, are why we say fuck no.
While I personallywould prefer a constitutional amendment that overrides the 2nd, I'm not giving up my guns until the cops are no longer armed criminals, and you're never getting my crossbows.
Any law that violates the constitution should not be obeyed. That is the duty of the U.S. citizen.
Sure, but the constitution is capable of being amended, and is long overdue for some amendments.
NAGR > NRA
SAF is better, they actually drive lawsuits vs paying politicians.
Castile wasn't the last of it, either. Roger Fortson recently was gunned down for simply having a gun. He was not brandishing or pointing it at anyone. It was a very similar situation, just not a vehicle stop.
It won't stop until someone makes it stop. Qualified Immunity has got to fucking go.
Qualified Immunity is illegal according to the law that Congress passed in 1871.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html
Well, that's it, right? Because not-white.
Nationals and Phillies fans seem unfairly targeted....
St. Louis Cardinals started selling blue ball caps. Not sure if it’s related to the 2016+ phenomenon, but I like to think it is.
Yeah, well, if they're still wearing that shit during an active civil war - I mean, we're taking about Phillies fans, so no great loss.
(Note: I lived on The Mainline for 20 years, so I think I'm allowed some ribbing. Phillies fans not only regularly trash Philadelphia in drunken riots after games, they also came to my new state and totally trashed Minneapolis while they were here. I don't believe there's a worse bunch of hooligans in the States.)
I wish I could after on the guns things but I should not own a gun! I have a history of depression and I super don't want to have easy access.
That said, put a gun in my hands and I'll do my part to end fascism. I'm even a fairly decent shot for having only fired a gun 3 different times. Just please take the thing away from me when I rotate out.
Better yet, get me an fpv headset.
The next one will be drones, learn to fly them.
I'm not advocating anyone buy a gun, mind you. My general opinion on guns is the same about cars: the only person I truly trust to operate one is me; the rest of all y'all are just generally unreliable.
That said: get a long gun. Any non-Bulpup rifle with a 20” or longer barrel - it's really hard to commit suicide with a long rifle. You can find a way, sure, but there are far easier, more reliable ways to off yourself than trying to figure out how to pull a trigger you can't reach when the bangy end is pointed at your head. And the knowledge that most people who try doing this end up still alive but permanently mangled and with reduced faculties may drive you to seek those alternative methods.
Another plus for a rifle is that it's simply a better weapon for killing fascists. We have a lot of evidence that handguns are almost never used in armed conflicts. They're far less powerful than rifles (in general), and their effective ranges are drastically shorter. Get a cheap optic, do some practice shooting, and you'll be better armed and prepared than any open-carry idiot running around armed only with their trusty Colt M1911 with official Trump pistol grips.
I really wish that last part was a joke.
I don't mean to come across as minimizing mental health issues. I also can't prevent you from trying to off yourself. All that said, I hope you are able to get help, and get healthy.
Hey thanks, this is an idea that I hadn't thought much about and I'll have to consider it. I also need consider storage and how to get to a range without a car but those things are workable.
As for my mental health, I'm doing well and feel in a good place all around. I got married a year and a half ago and have a stable life. I'm doing good. This will have to be a process if I'm going to buy a rifle but your arguments have opened me to the idea.
Glad to hear you're in a more stable place! I know it's a constant struggle; rarely do people just "get better" and never gave issues again, but I'm glad that you're on top of it.
Open carry is legal almost everywhere in the US. You could literally put a sling on it, strap it on your back, and ride your bike to the range. If you shoot a common caliber, you can buy ammo when you get there (assuming it's a range in or near a store). You'd need to check your local laws about what you need to do to open carry a gun and ammunition; like, can you have it in a protective case?
Anyway, good luck with your journey.
"But this time the guy was ~~white~~ ~~rich~~ ~~Republican~~ innocent!"
And if they make that argument, I'll tell them that means they believe people are "guilty until proven innocent" and don't deserve a trial by a jury of their peers, which is as unAmerican an idea as you can get.
Not going to be useful. They don't want a democracy, they don't want a justice system. They want a king and the ability to use state power to shit on other people.
Trust me, I am in Indiana. I'm surrounded by these flag-waving morons. You call them unAmerican and they lose their shit. And all I have to do is pull up the Bill of Rights.
Either PBS or NPR had a thing a few years back where they’d read sections of the Bill of Right on air, as part of Independence Day celebrations.
The right wing folks who heard it thought it was communist propaganda.
Do they not still do that? I've had to listen to a lot less NPR since my daughter decided I'm not allowed to listen to the radio in the car.
Rude.
I get all this talk about their rights yet they seem so fundamentally opposed to me having mine.
These people are terrible citizens.
No argument from me. As the person above said, they don't want a democracy or a justice system. They are as bad a citizen you can get without actively sending classified information to a rival power.
They are all members of the cult, just sadly the majority of them don't realize they are. This is David Koresh on steroids! He has a platform previous cults did not, and has captured a political party to use for recruitment. It has become apparent that at some point the media and the country need to start treating his cult as such, and we need to figure out how to "rescue" millions of people that would do anything for their cult leader because they have broken all tethers to reality. Putting the cult leader in jail is not going to bring these people back, and is going to require mental health resources on a scale the US (and the world) has never had to deal with before. This is going to have repercussions for generations.
They're downright bad people too. They dont get to do a few good deeds while trying to use political power to do away with human life and human rights without being called the moster they are.
I love getting called a liberal pussy by civilian clowns that have never served a day. Pretty sure the government trained me to kill.
No, according to DJT, "very innocent", which is as reassuring as "a little bit pregnant".
"Yeah but this is totes different thing!!!?!?!"
Well... that's true. In this case, the person who got charged actually went through the court system rather than being murdered by a cop.
Which seems... fairer?
Yes. That's literally the platform. They say whatever they have to to cover their asses because all they really care about it being able to do whatever they want while forcing everyone else to do live by their rules.
They don't care when you point this out because that is their goal. They're shameless about it.
Like I said, I'm surrounded by these idiots. They hate it when you suggest they aren't real Americans.
They know in their hearts that they are Loyalists. Call them the red coats that they are.
You've got to remember, they don't view the BLM reasons as miscarriages of justice. Because they're morons.