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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by 7ai@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I hopped from arch (2010-2019) to Nixos (2019-2023). I had my issues with it but being a functional programmer, I really liked the declarative style of configuring your OS. That was until last week. I decided to try out void Linux (musl). I'm happy with it so far.

Why did I switch?

  1. Nix is extremely slow and data intensive (compared to xbps). I mean sometimes 100-1000x or more. I know it is not a fair comparison because nix is doing much more. Even for small tweaks or dependency / toolchain update it'll download/rebuild all packages. This would mean 3-10GB (or more) download on Nixos for something that is a few KB or MB on xbps.

  2. Everything is noticeably slower. My system used way more CPU and Ram even during idle. CPU was at 1-3% during idle and my battery life was 2 to 3.5h. Xfce idle ram usage was 1.5 GB on Nixos. On Void it's around 0.5GB. I easily get 5-7h of battery life for my normal usage. It is 10h-12h if I am reading an ebook.

Nix disables a lot of compiler optimisations apparently for reproducibility. Maybe this is the reason?

  1. Just a lot of random bugs. Firefox would sometimes leak memory and hang. I have only 8 GB of ram. WiFi reconnecting all the time randomly. No such issues so far with void.

  2. Of course the abstractions and the language have a learning curve. It's harder for a beginner to package or do something which is not already exposed as an option. (This wasn't a big issue for me most of the time.)

For now, I'll enjoy the speed and simplicity of void. It has less packages compared to nix but I have flatpak if needed. So far, I had to install only Android studio with it.

My verdict is to use Nixos for servers and shared dev environments. For desktop it's probably not suitable for most.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I think the verdict is NixOS is perfect for desktops, since you probably don't care about data or compiling everything or slight inefficiencies

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago
[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 1 points 1 year ago

It has to be! No one can hate themselves so much they deliberately go out of their way to use something needlessly slow

[-] iopq@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I dispute the needlessly part. NixOS unstable has very new packages, do you're getting some fresh updates before some other packaging systems.

Is it less "efficient" than waiting for major versions? Of course. But I'm willing to run an update in the background on my desktop to get that new software.

[-] monotrox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

That really depends on what kind of computer you are using and how fast your internet connection is. Also a desktop computer should be (for most people) as little maintanance work as possible and having long update/install times really stands in the way of that.

[-] iopq@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Why? If it's installing singing in the background it's not stopping me from doing my work

[-] 7ai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I guess so then all those that remain are the benefits of Nixos 👍

this post was submitted on 31 Jul 2023
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