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I again am not saying that what Israel is doing is okay or defending them at all. My point is people need to also be aware how much Chinese and Russian troll farms control the discourse across the internet by escalating atrocities that specifically make the US look bad and downplaying ones that make China or Russia look bad wherever possible. It is a major problem because those countries are manipulating genuine outrage to specifically target and weaken their enemies while drowning out the voices of other people also in need of support through genocide like the Uyghurs. It’s important because those groups get forgotten when all the discourse is manipulated towards one popular cause that the authoritarians get to hide their crimes behind. We can acknowledge Israels crimes and still be cognizant of the threats coming from authoritarian troll farms.
No, I wasn't saying you were defending Israel. And I think you have a strong point that our silence on other atrocities undercuts our moral authority in pointing out others.
But ultimately, reality is what we see. An atrocity is an atrocity, and protesting one thing doesn't mean we condone another. It just means this is the thing we're focused on right now.
I can't help the Uyghurs. I have no leverage against China. I can write to my Senator, a guy who I voted for, who is a strong supporter of Israel, and I can tell him how I feel. I can talk to my friends and relatives about it, and we can change the dynamic of public support for a nation engaged in human rights abuses that are enabled by American voters. I could mention Uyghurs in my letter, and lgbtq+ rights in Russia, and Muslims and Sikhs in India, and half a dozen other problems. But fixing those problems would mean invasion. We might win one of those wars, but we won't win them all and we aren't really in a position to be exporting freedom around the world, anyway.
We can stop Israel now. Today. Biden, the US government, the American citizens, we can stop this. We can't stop Hamas from attacking. We can't ensure humans everywhere have food, safety, and water. We can stop Israel.
Well, that's a big question mark, but I would say we can stop SUPPORTING Israel in its genocide, at least.
Well yeah. I mean, I should say we have a hope of stopping Israel. Netanyahu wants Trump, but he's not going to defy Biden in the meantime, that is if Biden ever actually took a hardline position.