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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 160 points 5 months ago

Fascists always say they were treated unfairly...

The problem with that is, moderates then treat them with kids gloves, thinking that will stop them from saying it.

It never does.

To deal with fascists you throw the book at them, max legal punishment for every crime.

Because even if you just give them a slap on the wrist, their ideology requires them to say they were treated unfairly and are being persecuted.

It's like how they'll call the most conservative Dem in office a communist. So there's no point in running a conservative Dem, they'll fight them as hard as the most progressive.

There's no rational reason to compromise before the fight starts.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago

fascists sit in positions of power while pretending they are a horribly persecuted and mistreated minority

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Next up: Fox News tells us how awful the Mainstream Media is!

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 23 points 5 months ago

Many judges grant the defense way more leeway than the prosecution. One reason is actually pretty brutal- it keeps them from having something to appeal.

Trump obviously wants to drag this out as long as possible, and keep re-rolling the dice until he wins. Preventing that is a worthy goal.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

While there is some credence for that, it's not like it only applies to fascists.

Yet they always get preferential treatment at trial.

Regardless of if that's like Trump's case where he appointed the judge, or this one where the other party appointed the judge.

In both situations, the judges are more lenient with fascists than literally any other demographic.

trump isnt the only example, look at all the 1/6 trials.

Our justice system has a bias towards fascists, and regardless of the reasoning of the person showing the bias, they all believe it's justified for one reason or another.

And it's always the wrong strategy when dealing with fascists.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

This is particularly true for politicalized trials, because appeals courts are almost always more conservative than the lower courts. As you appeal higher, the courts tend to be more and more conservative, so a conservative’s chances of winning increase. So if you want to prevent a conservative from winning on appeal, the best way is to never give them anything to appeal in the first place.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it’s the card says moops. They aren’t arguing what they think is true, they’re arguing what they think will get them what they want if they can convince people is true

[-] Fox@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago

Give it a shot, maybe he'll have enough time before November to publish a book

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