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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 26 points 4 months ago

Were Soviet tanks bad? I thought they were serviceable, cheap, sort of utilitarian, maybe not the highest caliber but you could make tons of them and that was the point. Like beetles

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Soviet tanks were usually very good tankwise, but lacking in softer stats. Their big problems were that they needed to arm a huge conscript (or even worse, draftee) army, so they hoarded everything past obsolescence and most of it was below standard (T-62 wasn't that good even back then, but they're still in service) and the lagging electronics industry meaning their night sights, FCS, and in particular thermals were awful. There's solid argument that until the advent of NATO "box" tanks and the Rheinmetall 120mm soviet designs were better than everyone elses, but beyond they were quickly overtaken.

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

You have some right points, but also in one of the most used tanks (I forgot which one), crew were attaching a pillow to a sharp metal corner that you would hit with your head all the time. I'd call that utilitarian, as head trauma was avoidable in some cases.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago

serviceable

AFAIK they aren't. Western tanks are usually more optimised to be serviced in the field which makes them larger to be able to easily get to all the parts. Soviet tanks are more optimised on a lower profile while trying to cram as much stuff in there as possible.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago
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