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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by doublepepperoni@hexbear.net to c/urbanism@hexbear.net

Just this week in Vantaa, Finland three 12-year-old girls piled onto one of those electric scooters you subscribe to with an app and proceeded to get run over by a car at a crossing, killing one of them

The app is supposed to have an age restriction but it's easy to bypass and you're not supposed to have more than one person riding on one, which people routinely ignore

I hate seeing kids and teens speeding around dangerously on those fucking things and then just leaving them laying around on high-traffic bike routes because they don't give a shit since they treat the scooters as completely disposable

Fucking awful bazinga-brained Silicon Valley-ass idea and business model. Actually, there are also bikes you can use with an app but curiously you don't see kids doing reckless shit with those, almost as if electric scooters were uniquely terrible thonk

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is just the dirtbike discourse from a few days ago all over again. Reposting this thread which I hope helps make some of the scooter-brained users here understand why people are against e-scooter implementation in public infrastructure.
Good urban planning isn't when "you get to go fast on an e-scooter and any impediment to this is bad". There's a reason people are arguing for 15-minute cities instead of ceding roads to scooters and it isnt because they hate fun.
Read up on "Practice Theory". A good entry point is Making Mobilities Matter.

E-scooters have far more accidents than bikes. Rideshare e-scooters have a lifespan of 9-18 months, they are not sustainable. The alternative to an e-scooter is not a car, it is a bike or public transport. E-scooters can work, but as they are implemented in the west they don't, which is why people critique them. Yes we should change our society, this doesn't mean we should hand over the shattered remains of public infrastructure to techbro parasites.

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