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Border guards in the EU are fascist scum. This happens on every external EU border, not just in Greece.
Calling bullshit, given you made an emotional argument with no backup and coastlines are protected on an individual basis it is unlikely there is coordination in their law breaking
You are defending willful negligence that leads to the deaths of migrants.
Up to 1 in 13 migrants die in the Mediterranean. Italy as well as Greece have been allowing migrants to die as a part of deterrence-based migration policy. Rescuing the passengers of capsized migrant vessels has been criminalized. There are plenty of articles that confirm these facts. Here is one example.
I am not defending that, I am arguing against a claim. Being on the right side of an argument doesnt allow anyone to make up or exaggerate facts.
While I agree with your statement, there is also a difference in how awful we are, between allowing capsized vessels to just take their course and if we deliberately throw migrants overboard, as this post says is happening in Greece.
Is it really so different though? The outcome of both situations is the same. Migrants are dying, through direct action and deliberate inaction.
Mediterranean nations have the opportunity to protect lives, but instead they choose kill / let migrants die.
Yes it is. Might as well start an invasion of half the middle east if inaction is the same thing as active murder.
When a government is informed that people are dying within its waters, and the gov has the capability to respond but deliberately chooses not to because the victims are "african", you think that the government bears no responsibity for their deaths?
OK. So by that logic, let's say you are touring Europe and have a heart attack. The paramedics are in the area and available, but refuse to take you to the hospital. You are left to die on the street.
You think you deserve such foul treatment?
Have I snuck in through a known danger or used my visa?
I'm sorry, but there is no situation where it is permissible to stand idle as someone suffers an untimely and preventable death.
Even soldiers at war, captured in foreign territory without visas, are entitled to lifesaving care.
“Snuck in” is a very strange word to use for asylum seekers
There doesn't need to be any coordinartion, since the ideology comes from the top. Their job is to stop brown and black refugees, so white supremacy is not only a personal ideology but a job requirement.
What top? The EU has been wholly committed to taking in migrants at the highest level, how is it that the opposite sentiment trickles down?
So just made up fantasy stuff. Got it. Until you provide some evidence this is fake news.
What "news", WTF are you on about? I consider them fascists because of their role, which is very well documented, f.e. in the above article. That's what they do.
Have a source from me then.