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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Meanwhile the LPC oppose the bill while the CPC would work to amend it.

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[-] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago

Tobacco is the health hazard to children and adults alike, not the flavours added to it. But that's another moral panic.

[-] off_brand_@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

Flavored tobacco was literally marketed to children, to get them addicted to cigarettes from an early age. The "protect the children" arguments are often used to ban things that made no impact or even positive impact in children's lives (DnD, sexual equality). Or it's used to justify surveillance and overreach (porn bans and she verification laws)

These aren't equivalent.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago

If anyone's claiming that any of these things is equivalent to another it isn't me, but marketing campaigns aimed at children (for tobacco and in general) are also something we'd be better off without.

[-] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Isn't that already illegal? As far as I remember, ad breaks during my morning cartoons were either for other shows on the network or Swiffer and laundry detergent.

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is illegal, but kids get most content online now. So, although many countries have laws on the books against ads targeting children, it doesn't mean that they don't.

Juul got in trouble for doing this, using ads that were definitely not specifically targeting tweens/teens on websites for Seventeen magazine, cartoon network, and Nick jr.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/12/health/juul-vaping-lawsuit.html

Edit: correction on the websites

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Flavoured tobacco (and nicotine pens/juice) is more appealing to young people, especially those who aren't educated on the risks and haven't developed self control.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago

It's more appealing to everyone, irrespective of age. Wikipedia suggests that it's been popular since the 19th century at latest. It was flavoured cigarillos that were the first tobacco products that tempted me, at a young age but not a child. Later, when I was much old, if pleasingly-flavoured vapes had been unavailable I would've had a much more difficult time quitting the nicotine.

But anyway, it's the misguided notion that enjoying things which taste good is childish that I find offensive. Advocate for banning all tobacco and I can't really say you're wrong to suggest it, but don't fall for that nonsense.

[-] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

That's the thing that people who want flavour bans don't get, it helps people quit cigarettes cause it tastes good and gives you your nicotine. Yes it's more appealing to kids as well but if flavours get banned then more kids will just start picking up cigarettes again cause they're dumb kids(I was one too, no shade) and want to look and feel cool, and if their friends are doing it then there's a good chance they will too.

Idk what the solution is but banning flavours is just gonna push people back to actual tobacco which is absolutely worse than vapes. Kids are gonna use nicotine no matter how much or a fuss people make or how hard you regulate it, a flavour ban isn't gonna make things any better and will piss off a lot of people that aren't kids, including me.

Fuck off and let me poison my lungs with fruity vapour if I want, that's basically my retirement plan at this point anyways is lung cancer or liver failure.

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