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this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2024
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Excellent take, well stated.
I am however obligated to point to a Jimmy Carr bit where he explains punching down and the waiver for demeaning any group you're part of... followed by "So pedophiles, right? They're always fucking immature assholes."
Jimmy Carr is also very good at what he does, and, in my opinion - does tread that line really well. I dont mind admitting - better than I could.
He also lives in the world of satire / the boufant / the grotesque whereas none of cast of Seinfeld really does. And, as that's the world he lives in, expectations are matched.
Also, he likely couldn't do his most contentious material if he wasn't famous and was doing a 15 min set on a cruise line.
The skill matters more than the fame. Look at Hannibal Buress swinging for Cosby when he was just some guy. Or, arguably, Bill Burr telling Philadelphia to go fuck themselves, for twelve straight minutes.
Standup really can get away with anything - if the comic understands their audience. Which is why it's so utterly pathetic that all these right-wing jerkoffs keep fumbling the most basic expectations and then crying about it for other right-wing jerkoffs.