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Biden’s Israel policy may hasten Trump’s rise, US allies fear
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Helpful? The defeatist attitude isn't helpful either. Why are people being held to higher standards than the dipshit they're being asked to vote for? It's easier to get one old piece of shit to act to his own interests and do the bare fucking minimum and stop murdering children than to convince a lot of people to support murdering children.
How exactly is me saying that it behooves us to educate people a defeatist attitude? I'd say that "Biden needs to do this or else I won't vote for him" is defeatist since you know he won't do that.
That attitude. If you think he prefers Trump over trying to at least appear like he doesn't enjoy drinking orphan blood then your opinion of him is even lower than mine.
That's not defeatism, that's realism. Neither Trump or Biden will change America's pro-Israel stance that America has had for decades and only a fool would think otherwise. So basing your vote on that and refusing to vote for him if he doesn't is also foolish because it will result in a dictatorship.
"Either he does what I want or I let the dictator win" is as foolish as it gets.
Why can't he change his own stance? It would be very foolish of him to allow a dictatorship to take hold because of that.
He can, but expecting him to and not voting for him if he doesn't is, again, extremely foolish. All it does is get the other guy with the exact same stance, but who also wants a dictatorship and concentration camps to win.
Because you didn't get your way.
In fact, that's not just as foolish as it gets, it's as selfish as it gets.
I'm guessing you aren't trans, which is why you have this attitude. You won't be thrown into a concentration camp so it's fine for you.
The only bad genocide is the one happening on the other side of the world, after all. Genocide of trans people? That's not a bad thing, is it?
Damn it sucks that Joe would rather support two genocides than none. Good luck
Sounds more like you would rather support two genocides. Biden can't force you to not vote or vote for someone else, that's on you.
And by not voting to stop Trump, you're voting in favor of trans genocide.
Which you're obviously okay with.
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
I don't need to tell myself anything. You've already shown that you don't think trans lives are worth saving.
Hey since every vote counts I should probably warn you that this strategy of yours of trying to shame apathy is dogshit and hurts more than it helps.
Damn, you really must hate trans people by doing that
Doing the "I'm rubber, you're glue" thing won't work here, because you're the one talking about doing this to stop genocide, not me. And yet you are apparently totally unconcerned with the ongoing trans genocide in America and how it would get worse under Trump.
If that does concern you, what do you plan to do about it? Will you just stand by as trans people are marched into camps and say, "I guess Biden should have done what I wanted" or do you have some sort of idea of how to stop things from getting that far that doesn't rely on other people you don't even know to do what you personally want?
Generally when I get into discussions like this with people like you, they deny there is a trans genocide going on and imply there won't be one if Trump gets in either. Let's see if you're more grounded in reality and can actually answer my question.
Hey, I'm the one trying to get Joe to win the election here, if you're fine with just giving up and letting he lose it that's up to you, I won't accuse you of secretly wanting trans people to die because that's a fucked up thing to say and helps no one.
But to answer your question, when trans people are being marched to camps because Joe Biden didn't want to say Israel should stop killing children I'll do what I always do and fight beside them.
What does "fight beside them" mean? They won't be fighting for the same reason Jews didn't fight when Nazis came for them. They were met with an overwhelming force in the entire Nazi government.
So what exactly do you plan to?
I plan to not have a conversation about resistance movements and guerrilla warfare with you right now. See you around and good luck
The resistance movements and guerilla warfare that stopped the Holocaust?
The resistance movements and guerilla warfare that is stopping the genocide in Gaza?
You plan not having a conversation about them because they don't work. But you also aren't interested in talking about stopping it before it starts.