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Your explanation reveals a misunderstanding of the terms, both of science and atheism.
If I may, could I suggest you would be better served by learning about what science is, and also, particularly in this case, just asking atheists what they think and what they mean by the terms they use.
This isn't a put down, I genuinely think you would be better served by doing so.
I wish you well.
Atheism is certainty of the nonexistence of a creator.
As clearly demonstrated in this thread by people certain of their atheism so much you would be hard pressed to find a religious person so arrogant in their beliefs.
No, this is incorrect. Feel free to ask.
You are free to correct a person in a conversation if you feel so inclined.
I don't believe correcting you would be helpful.
I've made my suggestions, which I believe you would be much better served by exploring.
I'll repeat for your benefit, that if you want to know what someone thinks or what they mean, the best thing you can do is to ask them.
Give it a try, you may be pleasantly surprised or possibly even learn something.*
*Maybe or possibly are not guarantees. I make no promises, but I'll try.
So indeed nothing of value as expected.
It's difficult to dismantle an argument that does not exist. I suppose if your explanation is non existent you always win the discussion. Le epic Atheist wins again.
Why, what were you expecting?
You haven't asked me to explain anything, let alone asked me what I actually think.
How very odd.
Do explain anything.
Like?
This is wrong. The only thing required to be an atheist is lacking a belief in theistic claims. You don't need to make the claim that God doesn't exist, and most atheists don't.
The only thing we're certain of (not absolutely, but fairly certain) is that theists haven't met their burden of proof.
That's called Agnosticism.
Atheism means you are certain that god does not exist.
You highlighted the A without any understanding of what the prefix a- means. It means not, or without.
I'm not a theist because they haven't convinced me of any theistic claims. I don't claim no gods exist. I just don't know of any gods that exist, therefore I am without theism. A-theism.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/atheism-agnosticism/
Ask literally any atheist here if they claim "god does not exist"
They seem quite confident as they proclaim their superiority over religious people and cannot comprehend why anyone would be religious.
Sure. And nobody claimed "God doesn't exist." Two people now have told you that you're mistaken, but you insist.
From our perspective it seems like you're imposing a baseless claim onto us so you can feel better about your own baseless claims. Only theists say atheism is a claim.
There is no baseless claim it is the only reasonable claim from our current understanding of physics.
Claiming that the universe magically came out of nothing is not an answer to some. It contradicts all of science especially the first and second laws of thermodynamics.
Nonetheless you are still conflating Atheism and Agnosticism. These words exist for a reason they mean different things.
Correct, and you're still misusing them according to the people who actually identify with these labels. Atheism is the answer to what you believe, and agnosticism is the answer to what you know.
I don't believe God exists and I don't know if God exists, so I'm an agnostic atheist. For you to assume atheists are gnostic by default is like me assuming Christians are Mormons by default. It'd be even more ridiculous for me to go on and argue with Christians that "Christian" means "Mormon."