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People who started learning a second language, how has it made you aware how broken English is ? (lemm.ee)

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Clarification Edit: for people who speak English natively and are learning a second language

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

There are five (5) ways of pronouncing oo

That's a good thing. Vowels are enormous in the range of ways they can be pronounced. Any vowel can become any other vowel before it's done being pronounced, and then you can chain that effect. You can tell where people are from by their vowels. Vowels convey analog information whereas consonants convey digital. Vowels therefore have bandwidth to carry extra information. And so not only do we have lots of vowel pair sequences with their own rules for pronunciation, we have tons of rules for how surrounding consonants change those vowels. And then finally we have all sorts of cultural understandings about how altered vowels indicate mood and intent.

It's good we don't try to pretend there are only a handful of vowels.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's a good thing.

Nah, man. That's the abused justifying the abuser. That's pure Stockholm syndrome.

There's no world in which the oos in moon, book, door, blood, brooch, and cooperation (I had forgotten about this one. There are six. SIX! 😩) representing SIX different sounds is a good thing. There simply isn't.

A sane language would replace some of those with u, ø, ō, ô, ö, õ, whatever, make some rule so that the poor sod attempting to decipher the written word could begin to know how to pronounce it... but not English. Not English. 😞

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