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[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 months ago

I think people seriously underestimate how much disney controls western values.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Yyyyyes and no

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Given how strongly Disney and their subsidiaries support LGBTQ+ and reproductive rights, I'm gonna say that they don't have nearly enough control.

[-] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

They are a company, they don't support anything. They only look out for the most profitable paths to make money. Just last week Disney started giving donations to the Republican party again

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Companies can, and do, support things. Disney hasn't stopped it's support for LGBTQ+ causes, and they 'won' the fight that DeSantis started. $87,000 in donations isn't even pocket change for Disney. When you look at where Disney puts its' money, it's pretty clear that they have a left-of-center bias.

[-] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Indeed they can and do support things...things that will allow them to make more money. They are called investments.

The "fight" with DeSantis was all theatre and their "win" simply allows them to continue to rule on their land as if nothing changed.

And I think you are mixing correlation with causation: just because they happen to support and give money to Democrats, it doesn't mean they stand by them. In the same link you shared, it shows they gave money to the Republicans and Nikki Haley...which is not something someone would do if they truly supported the things you said they do.

And that's the whole point. They are not someone. They are a company, controlled by individuals who are simply looking to maximize profits. You think they are left- or center-aligned but that is simply because that reflects the majority of their customer base. If tomorrow the right suddenly comprised the majority of their customers, they would change side immediately.

I cannot believe people in 2024 still think giant multinational companies can "be on their side"

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

You think they are left- or center-aligned but that is simply because that reflects the majority of their customer base

Yes. And the same fact means that they will continue to support causes on the left, and the right will continue to demonize them, which will further reinforce them as supporting the left. It's self-perpetuating. Of course companies do things to make money; their support for LGBTQ+ causes is because they can see the writing on the wall, and know that support for that is growing, and will continue to grow. And Disney, by supporting it, increases the rate that it grows.

I cannot believe people in 2024 still think giant multinational companies can “be on their side”

They are "on their side" when it's in their interest to do so. Which, bluntly, is true for almost all people. Absolute altruism--doing a 'good' thing for which you receive absolutely no reward (including public recognition or a sense of smug superiority) at all--is so rare as to be extinct. That's how politics is always played, my dude.

[-] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

They are "on their side" when it's in their interest to do so. Which, bluntly, is true for almost all people. Absolute altruism--doing a 'good' thing for which you receive absolutely no reward (including public recognition or a sense of smug superiority) at all--is so rare as to be extinct. That's how politics is always played, my dude

...that's literally what I have been saying. Matter of fact, your whole reply was just a different way of saying the same thing. You just repeated my points and tried to be cool by adding the "my dude" at the end.

I'm done with this pointless conversation. Goodbye

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