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Motion Picture Association Hires FBI Official to Lead Anti-Piracy Efforts
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Not sure I get the "You make a bad product so I feel justified in stealing it" argument.
Piracy isn't stealing if buying isn't owning.
So it's okay to keep a rental car because you don't own it and it's therefore not stealing?
It's ok to make a 1:1 copy of the rental car without depriving the company of the car in any way
So a writer spends a year of his life writing a book with the idea that he can sell copies for $15 each so that, if he sells enough copies, he can make that year's time worthwhile. But you think it's okay to just make a copy for free since he still has his original?
Yes. I was never going to buy it anyway. He didn't lose anything. At least this way, his art is consumed and discussed, potentially generating a sale. BTW, you are absolutely wasting your time here with me. I obviously have a very different perspective on this than you do. You'll have to either accept that, or become increasingly frustrated that your arguments fall flat with me
Edited because I realized I wasn't in the piracy community
At least now we've gotten to the common understanding that it is theft, but you just don't care. I personally think copyright laws have been good for our society because they've allowed people to live off of creating art. You obviously have a different view.
I'm not at all frustrated by the conversation - it's like discussing car registration or driver's licenses with a SovCit. In fact, it's pretty much exactly like that. It's interesting for me to see how you rationalize your view, but I don't expect you to change your mind.
Still not theft.
Sure it is. You're taking something that isn't yours without paying for it.
I'm not taking anything. Theft implies loss.
Theft DEMANDS loss
The ordinary rules don't apply to corporations, and we're suckers if we play by ordinary rules.
That's why 'shoplifting' from Kroger, 'robbing' a Bank of America branch, 'stealing' cable TV from Xfinity, or 'pirating' movies or music from Columbia or Universal is not morally wrong. Quite the opposite, it's the right thing to do.
Will that's complete bullshit. What ridiculous rationalization. If you don't like those places, don't do business with them. If enough people don't do business with them, they'll go away.
Except thats not how our system works. When they fail they get bailouts at our expense.
They didn’t argue the product (the content on streaming platforms) was bad, they argued the only legal ways you can get the product are not acceptable.
Therefore yes, it becomes ok in my book to violate copyright (which does not equate to stealing, the owner hasn’t lost the original).
As soon as I can have a choice of service that has virtually all of the content (like you do with music, or groceries), and I can pick the storefront based on its usability and cost rather than its catalogue, piracy numbers will go right down. Because it becomes less of a hassle to get it legally rather than pirate.
I did both to be honest. And I don't want to pirate media, I'm fine with sane pricing for good quality. It's just that currently they focus on neither, so I'm just stopping to give them money.
Really? How do you interpret the very first sentence?
That seems to be saying it's bad to me.
You know what I do when a product I want is unacceptably expensive or whatever? I don't buy it. It's not like we're talking about food or medicine. This is all lame rationalization.
That's because I didn't make that argument. Exactly the opposite to be honest.
Then what did you mean by the first sentence?
That all studios do the last few years is remakes and sequels and it's boring as hell.
How can you understand that sentence as a call for piracy?
Well I for one have not seen Batman's or Spiderman's origin story enough times yet. Can I get 3 more takes each please slowly starts banging head off monitor
Look at the title of this thread and then the first sentence of your comment. How else should it be read?
Still no, sorry. We seem to have very different understandings of those things.