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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net to c/linux@lemmy.ml

The Flatpak is already packaged and works well. It just needs to be maintained from a person that joins the Inkscape community.

This would allow further improvements like Portal support and making the app official on Flathub.

Update: One might have been found!

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[-] QuantumSoul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago
[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago

I'd say flatpak isn't the future because it's already here and seems to be universally accepted as the cross-distro package manager.

I do like how the Nix package manager handles dependencies, but it's not suitable for app developers packaging their own apps because of its complexity.

If a better flatpak comes around I'd use it too, but at least for graphical apps I don't know what it'd have to do to be better. In my opinion, flatpak is a prime example of good enough, but not perfect and I'd be surprised if there was a different tool with the same momentum in 15 years (except snap, but they seem too Ubuntu specific).

[-] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

(except snap, but they seem too Ubuntu specific).

For what it is worth you can install Snap on most distros. https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snapd

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But you can’t run your own snap repo

[-] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not officially but people have managed to reverse engineer it before in order to host their own - https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/lol-an-open-source-snap-server-implementation/27109

Whilst I do get the sentiment (and in no way do I support Canonical in keeping it proprietary), how likely is it that alternative Snap repos are going to show up if they did make it possible? Even with Flatpak where it is encouraged and documented I don't think I've heard of anyone setting up a Flathub alternative of any significance.

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

elementary has their own repo for their system apps

I didn’t know about the self-hosted snap stores, thanks for pointing it out!

[-] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

And I wasn't aware of the Elementary thing with Flatpak! Admittedly I hadn't really thought of it in that way, I was thinking something more akin to F-droid where there are a couple of extra repos you can add which have applications not on the main one due to slightly looser requirements. But making it specifically for apps for that ecosystem in particular makes a lot of sense.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Fedora also has their own flatpak remote, which only includes flatpaks build from Fedora rpms.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

For what it is worth you can install Snap on most distros. https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snapd

Snap is a cesspool for malware and shovel ware. The best apps are packaged by Canonical. Also, when people still cared about Snap, there were frequent reports of incompatibilities because it was developed with Ubuntu in mind.

[-] BennyHill@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

but you shouldnt because snap's "strict confinement' sandbox feature does not work without the legacy patches to Apparmor that ubuntu uses.

[-] QuantumSoul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Snap is shit. I started using flatpak because apt didn't support apps that I wanted and snap only supported ancient releases. .deb is annoying too and .appimage I don't like to have the files hanging there

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Ubuntu may have convinced some proprietary developers, but Snaps are shit and devs know that I think

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I left Ubuntu when apt wouldn't let me install a native package. It just would redirect to a broken snap.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 1 year ago

Apt or distro package manager of choice.

No, APT is the past 20 years.

[-] QuantumSoul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago
[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Use arch with AUR, and cross your fingers that at least someone checks the changes. I sure don't.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Those need root and don't isolate apps from the base system

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Yet curiously they're far more secure. Huh.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

No they aren't

It completely invalidates the Android security model if something can arbitrarily bypass restrictions.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thankfully we don't have to follow the dumb Android security model on desktops.

on Qubes we still have security through compartmentalization, yet all systems have root access (even passwordless sudo)

[-] magi@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago
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