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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think you understand what's happening here. Either the west decides to start negotiating or there won't be an Ukraine left. Those are the options on the table.

[-] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

These libs are so used to having stopped caring about a war 8 years before it's lost that they don't even recognize what losing a war looks like. They think they can copium their way into Ukraine getting better terms.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Clearly, if they just keep repeating that Putin can end this war at any moment enough times then it will magically end.

[-] sweng@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Right, and Putin knows that the west and Ukraine will not negotiate since they don't trust him. So what is the point of making an offer you don't expect to be accepted? If you don't expect to negotiate, you are not being serious about it.

You can not claim to be for a diplomstic solution and at the same time do nothing to actually reach it.

Putin would rather kill millions of Ukrainians and Russians than make himself trustworthy (which could actually lead to a diplomatic solution)? What kind of person does that?

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