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Trump Joked About Nazi 'Ovens' to His Jewish Employees, Says Former Trump Org VP
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Yeah, fuck you, Palestinian-Americans. Know your place. /s
Palestinians-Americans know what will happen to them if Trump wins. Their life does depend on him not wining
“Fingering the Pulse, with John Oliver.”
Whats your point? Some people mix cheese in their coffee.
Biden is losing Michigan because of his support for Israel.
In practicality, and this life-and-death is a matter of practicality rather than preference, betrayal beats zealous genocide support.
Even as someone from outside, I can say the U.S.' best bet is Biden again. His international politics are no different than most U.S. presidents that came to office in the last century, but at least U.S. citizens are getting a nice end of the mostly shit-ended sticks for a change. And that goes for all the current immigrant peoples in the U.S., too, although for many the reason for leaving their homes can be traced back to deep-rooted U.S. foreign policy.
What do they have with Trump? Persecution during immigration while their home countries will be kept bombed to hell or stripped and exploited by the ongoing U.S. policy.
You’re talking to a propagandist by all appearances. They seem to know exactly what’s going on, so in order to get Trump elected, this is what they seem to think they need to do. Or maybe they’ve been told to do….
I’m not sure how it works.
Irrelevant.
Fascism is irrelevant to a propagandist? Please, tell us more.
Nice try. But we’re done here. You’ve said what I needed you to say.
Glad to help.
Trump pulled more troops out of the Middle East than Biden and Obama. Clinton ran in 2016 on a platform of going to war with Iran.
Also the goal is not to reward Trump. The goal is to punish the support for genocide so American politics stop supporting genocide. The fact that two geriatric genocide supporters are your choices for the presidential election should bring everyone sane to the streets and push for the long overdue change of the political system. By keep voting Democrats purely based on "well they are not Trump" you get exactly what you got the last 30 years. Getting fucked by both parties, the Dems moving further and further to the right and the Reps enjoying many of their policies enacted by the Dems themselves. Look at Trumps border wall. Look at mass deportations. Look at the internment camps were children are separated from their families. All continued and expanded on by the current Dem administration.
Here’s one of them now! Loving that ratio.
Attacking users that you want to vote for Biden isn’t the win you think it is.
You’re not going to vote for him either way. And everyone knows this. So no. You’re not getting your as kissed like you are expecting.
That isn’t how it works. You get called out for what you’re doing and that’s that. Want people to be nice to you for allowing a rapist who will do much worse to Palestine to get elected?
Not happening.
Especially when this pretty much pokes a hole in your entire fake ideology.
Vitriol and negativity doesn’t win over voters. I’m starting to think a lot of the more ardent “Biden or Else” supporters actually want Trump to win. Stoking division among potential voters is a sure fire way to do that.
You’re not voting. So you don’t count.
Then why do you care. Wait, you actually think you’re changing Trump supporters minds? GMAFB
Nope. I’m trying to ensure that the work propagandists do is undermined. Nothing more.
Calling you out seems to work just fine to that effect.
And thanks for pretty much admitting that you and non voters like you- are irrelevant to the upcoming election. That’s all I really needed you to say.
I’m reluctantly voting for Biden. And I don’t need your validation to do so. This heavy-handed approach of forcing people to vote your candidate generally has the opposite effect.
Who’s forcing or being forced? You’re not a victim of voting oppression because someone suggest you do the right thing and keep a rapist traitor out of office.
Reluctantly do whatever the fuck you want- or don’t. But anyone here rusts suggesting that we don’t vote against a tyrant is here in bad faith and needs to be called out for what they are.
As I’ve said- if this doesn’t describe you-
THEN I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.
So how about you take a deep breath and stop white-knighting for people that are using your platform to disrupt an election.
Which is it? Do whatever you want, or needs to be called out?
Again, the enemy is both strong and weak.
Do whatever you want- AND take the risk of being called out.
You’re not exempt from criticism for what you decide to do, or not do- but for now, you’re free to do it or not.
So, I can vote however I want. Unless it’s different than what you chose. Then, you get to endlessly berate me. Are you a car salesman?
Says the person that endlessly berates people for who they are voting for.
We’re done man. You’ve buried yourself deep enough to satisfy my need to call you out.
You: Jumps into the ocean, yelling, “Everybody out, there’s a shark in the water!” 💦
Me: Throws you a life preserver. 🛟
You: “That’s okay, I can’t swim.” 🏊♀️
Why do you feel the need to make up fake dialogue between you and the people you disagree with?
What’s wrong? Is reality not suitable enough to support your bullshit that you need to fabricate conversations?
Because it is analogous to the inconsistent statements you make.
To anyone that doesn’t have an agenda, there’s nothing at all inconsistent with anything I’ve said. However saying shit like “I am voting for Biden.” And then going so far out of your way to defend those of you that suggest no one vote against Trump…
Well, now that is what I’d call inconsistent. But you people do love to project, so sure. Call me what you deny.
So, if I have an agenda, your statements are inconsistent?
Just making ish up. I have never said that. I have advocated for everyone to vote, or not vote, based on their personal self interests.
This. What does this mean? What have I called you? What am I denying? Is this some colloquial cant that eludes me?
Dude… your comment history is public.
Does that make you jealous?
No
Oh ya, Trump is oozing with honey, that's why he has so much support.
No one is "forcing" anyone to vote for Biden. They're just me being coddled when they say Biden is bad so you should let someone significantly worse be in power.
The time to complain about Biden not being good enough is during the primaries, and the 3.5 years between elections. People need to accept reality that this coming election is between Biden and Trump, and no amount of complaining about Biden will change that.
Yes, absolutely complain that Biden isn't doing enough and push him to do more. But this rhetoric of "I'm not going to vote for Biden so that the US can burn to the ground under Trump" is childish.
So anyone that disagrees with your Biden or else position is a propagandist? How about you just accept that I won't give Biden my vote mostly because of Gaza and just move on.
My vote, my choice.
So the fact that you know damn well that Trump will do just as much if not worse- illustrates that you Gaza stance is absolute bullshit.
And the fact that you know damn well by now what will happen to our LGBTQ+ friends and family, and women’s body autonomy if Trump is elected- and clearly don’t give a shit about any of it-
Shows you’re a propagandist. Don’t make this about my words- it’s YOURS that are telling on you.
Yeah okay pal, you keep throwing around propagandist as if you just learned the word and need to use it as much as possible. Right now you're like an exposed nerve so I'm there's no point in me trying to have a dialogue.
That’s quite an ironic accusation considering you haven’t seemed to mentioned Gaza at all prior to now. I’m guessing you’re either new to the concept of genocide- or you haven’t been made aware that Palestine was a place that existed before recently?
Let him cook, @JimSamtanko has the potential to be the new vanguard party leader. /s
I agree it's a very bad take.
They are just angry that this is the choice: Biden, or Trump. I get it, I’ve been there. But, directing that frustration at others who have the same problems only serves those that seek to sow discord. A lot of people come here to vent. And if they want to direct their anger at me, I can take it. I just don’t want their venting to disenfranchise others that would vote for Biden.
I completely understand and support this position.