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The first presidential debate is done and the aftermath has not been good for the incumbent, Joe Biden.

Some Democrat politicians and operatives reportedly texted CNN commentators with hopes that Mr Biden, 81, would step aside. Some floated the possibility of going to the White House and publicly stating concerns about him remaining as candidate.

But if Mr Biden were to drop out, it would be a free-for-all. There is no official mechanism for him or anyone else in the party to choose his successor, meaning Democrats would be left with an open (Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Chicago from August 19-22.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Biden can only be removed by Biden, but frankly, his performance last night was so terrible, he not only needs to stop the campaign, he should consider stepping down from office.

If he can't handle Trump in a debate, there's no way he's handling the duties of office.

As for who would replace him?

The DNC would push for Kamala Harris which would guarantee a Trump win.

The next two logical choices would be Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer.

But there are lots of good Democrats out there, Peter DeFazio, Jeff Merkley, Ron Wyden, Earl Blumenauer, all from Oregon.

If you're dead set on "ancient white guy", I hear Jerry Brown is still available. :)

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

I don't think Harris guarantees a Trump win, even if she's clearly a riskier pick than a more popular Democrat. And I don't think she is a good pick. I feel like either party could win simply by putting up a younger and more competent candidate, but their internal politics prevented that. Harris, for all her focus-group flip-flops and questionable past, would be able to respond directly and forcefully to Trump while conveying a capability to do the job. For all the bad vibes Biden put off with his oldness and feebleness last night, in my opinion not effectively attacking Trump was the real loss.

And to be clear, I think she's a terrible choice. She was a terrible choice when she was picked for VP and they've done nothing in four years to groom her as a successor, but I think the race is still tight and there's so much potential for gain simply not being 80 that her risks don't put us in a worse place. We'd be better with someone else, but I'm not sure the cost of passing over the black female VP when there's no other clear leader to coronate would be worth what will already be a chaotic decision.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Black female doesn't carry the weight when it turns out she was suppressing evidence in CA and blocking the release of innocent prisoners.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 months ago

She's not good. She was rejected in the 2020 primary and I think she was a terrible choice for VP. Everyone in progressive circles is right to hold her time as AG against her. But Joe Biden literally wrote the crime bill, which is way worse, and that wasn't a disqualifier. I wish that a terrible history of racial injustice was disqualifying for Democrats, but it's just not.

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