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[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Except Redditors, they believe Russia is being liberated by Ukraine tommorow

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Quote from someone I know:

russia's going to internally implode before it goes really bad

they are good at not showing it online but if you take the time to dig into the mere possibility of russia not doing too well, they're on the brink of integral logistical failure

all the cold war era public utilities, food production, roads, transportation, etc, have lost all funding / all deviated back to military spending, the country is literally consuming its own lifespan to keep the war going

last winter they got massive freezes, this spring they got floodings, and this summer they'll get forest fires

this is what happens when you conscripted firefighters, public utility workers, and every able bodied male to the military without consideration

even if russia does take kiyv they will never be able to hold it for more than a year

They already got the cope for future scenarios prepared.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

LMAO preparing secondary defensive line of cope to fallback on is some real forward thinking right there. It's such a stark admission that deep down they don't actually believe anything they said.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago

It is easy to overlook the fact that online echo chambers often do not reflect the broader public opinion. This phenomenon highlights the fact that most of our knowledge about the world comes from secondhand experiences rather than personal encounters. The communities we engage with significantly influence our perception of reality and shape our understanding of the world.

[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wut? When “liberation” of Russia became Ukraine’s goal? People really say this? Ukraine shall not follow Russia’s book and make imaginary excuses to intervene into other country. I mean, after Russia capitulate of course. At the moment Ukraine can do whatever needed to liberate its territories. Though, having Russian regiments to overthrow regime could increase Ukraine’s security. But I believe Ukraine will have much more important job in Ukraine itself after war.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

What if Russia doesn't capitulate

[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I’ll assume this is a legitimate question and not “clever whataboutism”.

Answering your question now. Realistically there are 3 scenarios:

  • frozen conflict
  • peace deal which will last until Russia will want more. Then story will repeat, unless Ukraine will somehow get NATO membership (doubt)
  • change of power in Russia

Two of them sucks for Ukraine and last one is too unpredictable for whole region if not world

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

No lol I was just overexaggerating, though it wouldn't surprise me that much at this point

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