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[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

You can tell who values you in all of your trans-self by their reaction to conservative trans people.

If they say "chickens voting for KFC" or anything similar, then they never valued trans people beyond what they could gain from them politically.

No sane human responds that way to someone who is under serious threat. It's just mocking that individual and the hurdles/threats they face everyday.

[-] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

I feel like our identity both enables us and obliges us to be more thoughtful than the average person, but I only agree with you to the extent that, there are plenty of "allies" who will revoke the identity of our siblings for wrongthink - this is flatly unacceptable. But trans folk aren't beyond reproach, and as a matter of internal policing, I'm pretty down with criticizing my brothers, sisters, siblings in gender-queerness for being overly self serving or disengaged politically.

with that said, this isn't anything i would trust or feel good empowering cis allies, politically aligned or not, to do. Not their business.

But the liberals and conservatives in our cohort need their Come To Ishtar moment, and facilitating that is good.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

I don't think we shouldn't criticize trans people who have reactionary beliefs, I just think that the way people do it matters.

Not misgendering someone and not getting gleeful at the abuse they're going to experience under a fascist regime are the bare minimum. If there are allies who can't even do that, then I think it's fair to question whether they really believe in trans-rights with no strings attached.

You pretty much said what I was trying to get at with my comment.