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Vox: 5 terrible reasons for Biden to stay in the race (www.vox.com)

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Really good article, it sucks people down it's what they don't want to hear.

And I'm not just saying that because their #1 Reason is something I've been calling out since the pool came out:

The basis for this claim was a post-debate Data for Progress (DFP) poll that found Biden and Harris taking 45 percent of the vote against Trump, while various other Democrats — from Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg — won no higher than 44 percent.

DFP is a total shit show, like last election we found out the founder was betting on close elections, then using DFP to conduct polls who's results would be used to influence results so he'd win the bet.

He was also soliciting employees to participate in straw donor schemes.

Even before all that, they didn't get popular for accurate polls. They got popular by doing very fast polls that provide the narrative their donors asked for.

The stuff DFP didn't publicize about the poll they used to say Biden was the only shit:

Even the Biden campaign’s own handpicked public poll suggests that he is not the Democrats’ strongest candidate. Yes, the president received 45 percent support against Trump in DFP’s survey, while other hypothetical nominees secured slightly less. And yet, in some of those theoretical head-to-heads, Trump’s share of the vote also fell; whereas the Republican led Biden 48 to 45, he led Whitmer 46 to 44. In other words, the best poll the president could find showed him losing by a larger margin than the governor of Michigan — who has yet to introduce herself to the national electorate.

And that same poll also showed that 1) 67 percent of Americans think Biden is too old to serve as president, 2) a majority of voters are more concerned about Biden’s age than Trump’s “criminal charges and threats to democracy,” and 3) Biden has a worse net approval rating than every single other Democrat included in the survey.

Biden and the DNC don't want polls to know what voters think, they want polls that tell voters what to think.

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Introspective articles like this one are incredibly important for a party to remain at the top of their game. As you mention, there is often this push to want to tell voters what to think rather than listening to them and acting on what they want. I remember this being a large issue in 2016 as well, with many voters wanting a candidate more like Berine Sanders, or at least a candidate that took up some of his (and the voters') ideas for the future of the country.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I remember this being a large issue in 2016

The only logical conclusion is the people leading the Dem party would rather have a Republican president and they control the party, than a progressive president who puts progressives in charge of the party.

We ain't fighting the same fight, and it's time we acknowledged it

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