196
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2024
196 points (90.2% liked)
politics
19088 readers
1873 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Because we're all relying on historical context. No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.
Democrats funding for cops actually helps democrats reach centrists and independent voters.
Nobody actually gives a shit about Israel and Palestine. People bringing this up are feigning concern.
Nobody has ever said Biden will 'protect us from Trump'. Not voting for Trump is what protects us from Trump. Telling people to stick it to the man and vote for someone else is harmful, because it splits the vote.
What the fuck are you going on about? Just because you're a psychopath who doesn't give a shit about other people doesn't mean we all are.
I cannot claim to know OP's mind, but IMHO, I think those that are performatively wringing their hands and clutching their pearls over the situation in Israel right now are either a bit deluded or just out to delude others, IF they are acting like having donnie instead of Biden would make that situation in any way better. And if they are telling people to vote third party or stay home to lodge a stupid protest against The Man, they are only helping donnie. Which again, will result in things going from very, very bad to far far worse.
Nobody is making that argument. You were the person the op was taking about. Nobody's going to vote trump over Palestine.
Sorry, I guess I was talking about kitnaht not the OP. And people actually are making this kind of argument, including around here. These are the same types that argue donnie is for keeping us out of "WWIII" (while Hillary obviously wanted one, lol) and ignore all his statements about wanting to level Gaza, etc.
Now, how many are trolls/bots, it's hard to say...
Historical context really doesn't mean anything here. Trump isn't the average republican guy. He has taken over the whole party with his ideology alone. Tons of people care about genocide. Not to mention people directly affected by it. Biden's whole pitch was he can get stuff done and be a one-term President. None of that has happened. This moment requires boldness and conviction. Biden is not the man for that at all.
Betting all your chips on a man who is hanging by a thread is a risky gamble to protect whatever is left of this country.
Biden's current approval rating is 34%....
What's the last president with numbers that low he got a second term?
Like, I don't think people understand how historically unpopular Biden is. 34% is fucking insane for being the president that followed trump, you can't get a better set up than being compared to that shitheel.
Liberals are so self-assured that they occupy the majority position that they simply cannot fathom that number is accurate.
I honestly do not think there is any way to get through to those people. Everyone who disagrees is either not a real american democrat or have been duped by the fake media.
They will drive us clear over the edge of the cliff and blame us for giving them the wrong directions.
It's just insane to me.
Like, there's that thread where Biden's talking about not bowing to "elites and millionaires" calling for him to drop...
And people are acting like that's really what's happening.
The elite and billionaires are the only ones not calling for him to drop, he's trying to frame it as him fighting for what voters want, but voters don't want Joe as the candidate.
On Friday when they asked him about the polls, he just pulled a trump and said they weren't fucking real.
Before trump in 2016, that answer would never have fucking flown.
Yeah, I'm getting some real Hillary 2016 energy on this one. Instead of it being "her turn", this time around, it's about Biden's "legacy". And I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I don't give a fuck about either of those things, I'm very much in the majority. Biden's legacy can get stuffed just as much as any notion that it was Hillary's birthright to be the first female American President...
TBF, the same "deep state" that the right clutches their pearls over are the same ones that pulled the Butter Emails garbage...but still. Beating donnie should be a slam dunk. He's basically the Washington Generals here, but somehow, the Democrats seem to do worse.
When I was campaigning for Bernie, I ran into two groups of people who you just COULD NOT have a reasonable conversation with... Magas and Clinton liberals... They just will not/cannot see reality
Nobody has ever done anything until they did. You're not really saying much there.
While we're at it though, no previous president has ever won reelection with an approval rating below 48% either. Biden's hasn't polled that high in over a year and a half.