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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17363474

"This is very obviously a letter to voters, not to Congress," said one reporter. "It reads like a campaign speech."

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah we'll see how this plays over the next 24-48 hours. There is a legit power struggle going on, right now, for the future of the DNC.

For Biden to pull out of this tail spin he's set up, he needs to do a shit ton of interviews, events, live audience interviews, maybe town halls to show the voters he's not the person they saw in the debate or in last Fridays interview. Letters aren't convincing because they can't address the core issue, and right now, Biden is facing a wall of criticism from core DNC insiders.

If Biden can get on TV, stage, etc and do the job of convincing people he's walking the walk, thats it. He's done what he needs to do to stay the nominee. If he can't do that, there is no amount of digging his heals in that changes things.

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

If Biden refuses to step down, there isn't a lot for the DNC to do. Biden has the nomination locked up with pledged delegates. And I seriously doubt we are going to see a mass defection at the convention. So, short of him waking up dead one of these mornings (always a possibility for an 81 year old man), we're riding the Biden ship all the way down.

Who knows, maybe Trump will do us all a favor and have a massive coronary in the next few months. Goodness knows his eating habits aren't the best. But, my money is on the Biden-Trump rematch no one wanted.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

seriously doubt we are going to see a mass defection at the convention.

We're seeing a mass defection right now. Its not going to take until the convention. Its Schiff and Pelosi asking Biden to step down right now.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

They aren't convention delegates, what they want is irrelevant to the process.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Ahem..

2017 called, it wants its SCOTUS ruling back:

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca11/17-14194/17-14194-2019-10-28.html

DNC has no obligation to listen the will of their voters, or even the delegates. They can just "decide" who the nominee is.

If the true managers of the DNC decide Biden isn't the nominee, then Biden isn't the nominee.

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

While folks like Schiff have some pull in the DNC, it's the delegates at the convention which choose the nominee. Party leaders have spent years ensuring that pledged delegates stay pledged delegates on the first round of voting. And it's Biden's team who chose those delegates. So, as long as Biden says he's staying, he's got this locked up.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Not according to the DNC or the 2017 SCOTUS ruling on this exact issue.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

For Biden to pull out of this tail spin he's set up, he needs to do a shit ton of interviews, events, live audience interviews, maybe town halls to show the voters he's not the person they saw in the debate or in last Fridays interview. Letters aren't convincing because they can't address the core issue, and right now, Biden is facing a wall of criticism from core DNC insiders.

Alternatively, he can do none of those things, and he will still get the nomination. What do you think he will pick?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Alternatively, he can do none of those things, and he will still get the nomination. What do you think he will pick?

I think we see Biden withdraw before the end of the week, maybe two weeks. He's a stubborn asshole, but its gone. He can't win. Its not just that we'll lose the White house, we'll lose the house and the senate. And no, if (as is happening in real time since Friday) other Democrat lawmakers have rejected Biden, there is a 0 percent chance he stays as the nominee. Biden is not in control of his own fate in this regard.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It's interesting that people are somehow convinced he actually cares about winning. I am not comfortable making that assumption. He can absolutely dig his heels in, tank the entire situation, and force them to hold a contested convention if he wants. That is the old "if I can't have you, then nobody can" strategy that straddles every immature or abusive relationship.

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