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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 176 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here is a link to the actual study (PDF via GDrive)

One of the authors of this paper is from the Chicago School and the Hoover Institution. Both are pro-business, anti-worker think-tanks that have been this way for decades. They also don't do any research of their own, but cite other papers that show the 5-20% reduction.

However, the methodology mentioned in the papers is suspect. First, they show that remote workers have the same productivity, but work longer hours. So the net output doesn't go down, they just spend more time working. Which raises the question: How many more breaks were they taking throughout the day? Being remote means a much more flexible schedule, so it's not uncommon to take longer breaks if you're a salaried worker.

Another study was IT professionals shifting to remote work at one company at the start of the pandemic. This one showed an 18% reduction in productivity. But considering the timing of this and that company culture and procedures can contribute to this, it doesn't seem to be a valid data point.

Then they bring up some common criticisms of WFH, which I've seen and refuted since I started working from home 2009: People can't communicate, working in groups is harder, and people can't control themselves. Yawn.

Honestly, the fact that they cherry picked hybrid work as being equally productive shows me this isn't about productivity, it's about keeping offices open. Which makes sense considering one of the authors is affiliated with groups that want to prop up the commercial rental business.

[-] spacedancer@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Then they bring up some common criticisms of WFH, which I’ve seen and refuted since I started working from home 2009: People can’t communicate, working in groups is harder, and people can’t control themselves. Yawn.

Exactly. I work for a global company, so the way I communicate with the people I work with everyday is via zoom. What's the point of commuting to an office just to get on zoom anyway to talk to people?

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

Don't forget that Forbes and The Economist were all in favor of outsourcing jobs, which leads to me having meetings with people all over the world even when I'm in an office.

So if working remotely hurts group work, a lot of it is their fault for sending jobs overseas. Unless they also want those jobs to eventually move back here so we can have happy group work fun time.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They want whatever keeps their property value highest and overhead lowest, they'll claim they want onsite workers and then turn around and hire remote people in India because it saves money.

Everything that falls out of their mouths is a piece of shit intended to save some 7 figure earner enough money to buy another vacation home.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Promoting hybrid is actually a smart move for them. Lower usage means less maintenance with the same rent.

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