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Pence Says Trump Pushed Him ‘Essentially to Overturn the Election’
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Compared to others who didn't even do their job, or even went against their job functions (how many military generals sat still, refusing to deploy troops to Wash. DC in response to Jan. 6th?), Mike Pence is a hero.
Bare minimum hero, but yes, he did the right thing on that day and that should be celebrated.
Celebrating powerful people (who are trying to get more power and will leverage your celebrations towards that end) for doing the bare minimum is a big part of why this country keeps getting worse.
The bare minimum is nothing to celebrate, it's literally the least we deserve as Americans.
Outside of this single act I’m no fan of Pence, but the man was under serious pressure and to acquiesce would have been the easy decision. Knowing that his life might be on the line, he did the right thing. I don’t think we should minimize this.
The DC national guard is subordinate to the president, secretary of defense, and secretary of the army, all appointed by trump, and my understanding is even if the secretary of defense or secretary of the army wanted to deploy the national guard they still need trump to ok it.No generals could deploy troops on January 6th, unless you are talking about wanting a general to start a military coup.also he shouldn't be celebrated unless you think just doing your job is a thing to celebrate. Are we saying taco bell workers should be called heros because they made a taco? Pence did his job and that's it, he is no hero.
Military generals couldn't do anything about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
Bullshit. The generals moved at 5pm+, many hours after Capitol police were overwhelmed
And then the troops came in. Late, but they did in fact come in. The troops then slept at the Capitol building for the next few days, the Press took pictures, etc. etc.
IIRC, it was Mike Pence who finally took a stand and told the Generals that Pence had the authority to ask for help, and that the Generals can get off their ass and send in the troops. Everyone was waiting for the President to give the order, troops at lower levels were literally sitting prepared waiting for orders by 2pm when it became obvious that the riot was getting out of hand.
Oh, yes, D.C. National Guard troops finally did respond because they are not bound by Posse Comitatus, but they also couldn't do it without Presidential authority.
Trump never approved of this.
IIRC, the rumor is that Mike Pence called in the military.
I certainly disagree with Mike Pence's politics. But we gotta give Mike Pence credit for taking action (albeit hours late, and when his own life was on the line due to the rioters). Its the bare minimum to get things done, but Jan 6th would be even worse than it was if Mike Pence didn't request military assistance by 5pm or so.
Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump's Secretary of the Army put out an order on Jan 5 that no troops could be redeployed without his order, then he made him unavailable on Jan 6.
I don't understand this photo, is it a joke about something?
That's DC National Guard sleeping in the Capital Building after being deployed on January 6th.
If you were paying attention to the news on that day, you should recognize the pics. Literally the military defending the Capitol Building by sleeping / garrisoning there.
So we all know the military got the authority to defend the Capitol Building. We literally have pictures of the troops there.
I wasn't paying attention as I don't live in the USA. Just wondered why they were asleep!
That is exactly what Brian Kemp did, campaigned on that and won his re-election for GA Governer.