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Wait, who is the trans worm supposed to be?
Dax and all trills?
And the bisexual terrorist?
That would be Kira. Although I don't think she was really bisexual either. The mirror universe Kira had like a narcissistic crush on non-mirror universe Kira if I remember correctly.
Oh, right, Mirror Kira definitely was, true. But our Kira was pretty focused on the one organ. I guess unless Odo counts as another gender.
Odo is quite literally gender-fluid.
In a wordplay way, sure, but he consistently presents male. In contrast to the character who is literally referred to as “the female changeling”.
Yeah, he does quite literally identify as male.
Still takes a spirit of adventure at least
She has better chemistry with Keiko and Miles than she does with Odo.
I forgot the symbiote was a worm thing. They really only showed that in one episode if I remember correctly, and that was already a retcon from what they did in TNG originally. I was also confused by the trans part because the symbiote doesn't really have a gender identity, the host does.
Her swapping genders is.....SOMETHING.
Lets just call it trans and go get a drink.
I find it telling that all they had to do in order to make being trans "acceptable" on TV was to make them be an alien species with an even more alien critter living inside them. And it worked, nobody ever questioned it even a little bit.
I'm totally fine with that. I just thought it was a confusing description at first because I forgot about the symbiote being a "worm" thing.
Also, I too love cheese...
Dax was Spock of DS9: a character who's wise and you can always rely on and who will help you with its experience. "Talk to me, Old Man" was the line aye. But of course both of its incarnations we could see weren't perfect - none of the DS9 characters were. They all had flaws, highs and downs and that was really nicely captured by the writers. Hell, that's why Ronald D Moore's Galactica worked and was popular because he incorporated similar character writing style.
Anyway, I could and I still can watch episode with Lenara Kahn without projecting our reality onto it - it's a tragic love story of two individuals separated by standards and customs, who play a dangerous game of breaking taboo set by the Trill society. Jadzia and Lenara suffered and so did Ezri when she arrived on the station - new there in this new environment and new body yet still the same among familiar faces. Again feeling the pressure of her home world and culture which she luckily withstand. Few times in the series writers dealt with how a joined individual is perceived, how that works on relations with people. The gender stuff never played back then any significant part of this species - maybe because show was overall written in a way audience didn't have to be explained or educated. Sure, the kiss scene was a controversial one but people moved on; neither in my country this particular episode and scene got any attention.
On the other hand, Discovery Trill plot was barely watchable to me because it was there just to fill quota set by today's media - there's of course a tragedy and love story but it all feels really superficial and forced. Not mention actors performance was poor but that applies to most of the characters in that show.
To sum this up, yes Trill symbionts are perceived for some reason as trans representation. But that is a totally anthropocentric view, from our real world, slapped onto the fictional universe with action set in the future.
Fuck off transphobe
And yet you think that trans women don't look like and behave like women (they are women and saying otherwise is in itself transphobic), rather than understand that you just don't realize that the trans women who do pass as cis are trans.
Because I doubt you'd know this woman was trans if you saw her walking down the street with her elegant model's walk.
Also, please tell us how a woman or a man is supposed to behave.
Again, you have no way of knowing that. All you know is that you have seen trans people who you assumed were trans. My wife works with a cis woman who has rather masculine features and even a mustache. You would probably think she was trans.
You have no idea what is between someone's legs unless you can see for yourself.
You can claim to not be transphobic, but when you then victim-blame trans people for being the cause of their own problems, you are.
I'm guessing you wouldn't say that other queer people, such as a gay man, does not cause friction by being gay.
If you're absolutely positive that you're not transphobic, please explain to me about how gay men are the cause of their own problems.
Yes, you did. In the most disgusting excuse for bigotry and victim-blaming I've seen in a long time. You're now blaming victims for society not accepting them. You're now saying that gay men also caused friction by people not accepting them.
This is some seriously bigoted shit.
How about black people? Did they cause the friction by being brought to the New World as slaves? I hear it's being more acceptable to be black in the West these days.
It must be nice to be overtly bigoted and think you can get out of it by just saying you reject the label.
And no, I think I'll leave your comments up to show other people how some Star Trek fans completely fail to live up to the ideals being shown to them.