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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, Biden may have lost too much support from his own party at this point. It's probably necessary for him to step down, regardless. You don't get Congresscritters of your own party calling for the presumptive nominee and incumbent to step down unless it looks godawful going into the election with the current ticket.

It's probably going to be Harris if he is replaced, which I'm... not thrilled with. But Blue no matter who. I'll vote for Biden if he's on the ticket in November - I'll vote for a fucking potato if I have to in order to oppose fascism. But he very well may be an electoral liability at this point, not a boon.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 months ago

He'd be stepping down into the void. The primaries are mostly over. It'd just be the DNC deciding for themselves who the candidate would be. That would NOT please most voters. It's typical for an incumbent to be the nominee for a second term. It's not typical for a party to just decide who the candidate would be.

It’s probably going to be Harris if he is replaced, which I’m… not thrilled with.

If that's who they choose they need to decide now and start talking her up, even if Biden doesn't step down right away. We are past primary season. And honestly, she's fine. Not good fine. But she'll lose to Trump. Not for any part of her own merit or policies, but because America is a sexist, racist country and I do not have any confidence in them electing a black woman. Maybe is she was popular or charismatic like Obama was but we haven't really seen her do much.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

If that’s who they choose they need to decide now and start talking her up, even if Biden doesn’t step down right away. We are past primary season. And honestly, she’s fine. Not good fine. But she’ll lose to Trump.

Unfortunately, while I share some of your reservations, I think the ball's in motion. We can let it roll (pick a new candidate) or get crushed by it (stick with Biden and have the millstone of defections hanging around our necks the entire election season), but either way, it's going where it's going. We have to deal with it as best we can, not deal with it the way that we would've, say, two months ago, before this went down.

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