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"You were so woke you made me into a fascist 🥺"
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Oh, yes, I turned against genocide and ethnic cleansing apologia because of internet weirdos, not because I think those things are bad.
I didn't call the meme evidence, I asked how much evidence you wanted. The meme is a joke about a well-known phenomenon. I'm sorry you misunderstood that.
Oh? Would you like me to dig up evidence there? Because I remember you quite distinctly engaging in apologia for tankies and doing Ukrainian genocide denial.
In fact, weren't you involved in denying the Uyghur genocide too?
You said fascists, not tankies. And what I did was say that I haven't seen sufficient evidence regarding a claim of genocide. Needing to see evidence before I believe something is not "genocide denial." Also, I believe I've been told by you and people like you that supporting genocide isn't even a deal breaker, even when there's plenty of evidence for it. I don't agree with that, because I'm anti-genocide, but it's pretty rich for you to try to get on your high horse with that.
It's rather impressive how many layers of "not using evidence" you're on at this point.
Yes, fascists. Or would you like to tell me how ethnic cleansing, genocide, totalitarian repression, repression of worker control over industry in favor of state control of industry, and an anti-democratic hero cult of death is actually True Socialism(tm)?
Oh, I'm sorry, was Bucha not enough for you? What about the mass evictions of Ukrainians, or the kidnapping of Ukrainian children? Colonization using Russian citizens? Any of this ringing a bell?
Silly me, it's only a genocide if it's done by people you don't like, like democracies. When a fascist state like Russia does it, it's actually completely okay.
Much as it seems like you're clearly interested in a good faith discussion based on facts and evidence, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to pass.
Silly me, I must have imagined all of that in all the regimes tankies play apologist for. I must have also imagined the mass murder and ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians as well, since you don't believe in that genocide either. Bucha was a false flag, right? What's the latest talking point on the kidnapped Ukrainian children? Summer camps, is it?
As usual, just screaming a bunch of nonsense unrelated to anything I've said. I've fed your trolling enough for today.
Oh, good, so you haven't denied the Ukrainian genocide?
This you?
Yeah. Now show me where I said "Bucha was a false flag."
Oh, you can't, because you made it up. As you do, all the time, constantly.
I'm not interested in this cable news-tier bullshit. Take some deep breaths and get back to me if you want to talk about things like an adult.
Cool, so you do admit that you deny Ukrainian genocide.
When I asked you what your explanation for Bucha was, you avoided the topic entirely, because you know that addressing the issue puts you in the uncomfortable position of explaining why the massacre at Bucha totally had nothing to do with genocide. "Bucha was a false flag, right?" is mockery of that. Sorry it went over your head.
Thanks for admitting you're a genocide supporter and a fascist. We're done here.
And there you have a perfect example of a good faith discussion, ladies and gents.
Good faith is, apparently, when you're nice to genocide deniers, and the nicer you are to them, the better faith it is. :)
No, good faith is when you make shit up and the more shit you make up the gooder faith it is.
And remember, if you get called on making shit up, you can just say you were joking and insult them for "not getting it," while making up a bunch more stuff to accuse them of. Then if they refuse to engage with your made up bullshit, declare victory while making up more bullshit.
Sorry for quoting you on your genocide denial.