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Why didn’t anyone think to do this 16 years ago? Back when we were all getting health care?
I'm once again going to steal these comments from one I had saved a month ago, penned by @MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world :
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Sounds like they were a little busy with the ACA.
Ive said this fairly recently, it's disgusting that our only major "achievement" in the last 40 years is a fucking REPUBLICAN markets based "solution."
"We" didn't even get to have what we wanted, we just have a watered down Romneycare program... Even when Republicans aren't in control they're in control...
And the Republicans still tried to kill it.
Man, you really don't remember what it was like if you don't realize just how substantive the ACA was. I'm not saying that the ACA is great, but it is so much better than what we used to have.
Something is always better than nothing, I was just lamenting the fact that even when we have full control we still have to cater to what Republicans want and don't get what we want.
A really good point. People upset that democrats don't do anything when we have power, it's because republicans are bad faith actors hell bent on fighting any and all progress, but especially when that progress could be attributed to democrats. Their contribution to governance can be surmised as cutting off their own nose to spite their face.
Republicans had full control and failed to kill the ACA, so that's extra salt for that wound 😆
For a couple reasons. Some cynically wanted to continue to use abortion as a political football. Codifying Roe in any meaningful way in their minds would have meant they had to find a new wedge issue to drive turnout and donations. We saw this on the other side when SCOTUS actually overturned it and the right didn't know what to do with themselves for a while.
Then maybe in part because of the former, there were a bunch of people that naively didn't believe they'd actually entirely destroy Roe. They genuinely thought the worst that could possibly happen was some minor restrictions at the margins. So those people were not motivated enough to actually do something about it.
As someone in their fifties, I've thought the matter was settled and the bleating of random protesters was just the status quo of abortion in the US for decades, FWIW.
And lets not forget this aspect of the conservative scotus.
Yep. Now I'm not gonna lie, I didn't think they'd actually fully overturn Roe in the Dobbs decision either. I figured upholding the 15 week or whatever ban with maybe some meaningless language about exceptions beyond that time was the most likely outcome from Dobbs. But I wasn't at all surprised when it happened. I knew as soon as they had a good excuse to do it they'd overturn Roe.