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[-] suzune@ani.social 5 points 4 months ago

Probably not. Most Linux admins know their systems and are able to navigate out of the situation with ease. But also most people don't use any corporate off-the-shelf software, because there are better options that are freely available.

Furthermore a Linux installation is dedicated and slim for one single purpose. The flexibility creates diversity.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago

Are you implying that Windows server admins don't know their shit?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I've scene some supposedly 20 year veterans who don't know the architecture of AD

Not to say that is all of them but I've scene some who really can't do anything outside of click some buttons.

[-] suzune@ani.social -3 points 4 months ago

No. They don't. They always need Microsoft support to solve situations and upgrades. You can also ask simple questions that they cannot answer. Try Active Directory: how to run AD in a secure fashion? Or: What services do rely on DCs in our company?

[-] capital@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

My guy, I work cloud support for both Linux and Windows VMs.

I get dumbass cases from both all the time.

[-] Zedd00@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago

As a Windows engineer, the number of times I've seen other "engineers" open a case with Microsoft is insane. It seems to be a lot of their first reactions. No logs, no trying anything, just "this broke, why no work". I think it's that the Linux guys are mostly self taught, and the windows guys aren't.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago

I think it's more of "we pay Microsoft (or any company) for this. Make them handle it."

It's that kind of thinking that makes shit like the crowd strike problem possible.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

Windows server admins: "We pay Microsoft for the service, damn right we'll use it!"

Linux server admins: "We don't pay anyone for the service, hopefully someone else had the same issue and posted about it somewhere..."

[-] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

Interestingly, the latter ends up with better stability and security!

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

I think the shower thought is centered around IF a ubiquitous bug that required physical access to the machine to resolve occurred simultaneously across all Linux machines.

If you couldn't remotely resolve the issues, regardless of your competence, simply the WALK to each machine and hooking up a KVM to each one would take a long time.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 4 months ago

Connect to your hypervisor remotely, pray it uses something like bhyve/FreeBSD

[-] suzune@ani.social -5 points 4 months ago

There won't be such case is my argument. No one patches a system "for fun" and automatically there except they really set it up like that. It would be only one kind of a case in one company.

Furthermore, you cannot compare Linux systems. A modem firmware with busybox is not the same as a Debian PC desktop. It works differently and has only the kernel in common. And in both cases they aren't patched at the same time. They are not even the same version, hell not even the same platform.

E.a. nothing will ever break like this. If it does, it will be one single case of a single IT department.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This combination of arrogance and complacency sort of thinking is how it does happen on Linux one day.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

Linux also isn't as popular on the desktop or end user devices

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