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World Court Finds Israel Responsible for Apartheid
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It has legitimacy and respect. What it doesn't have is enforcement. That's left to individual states
Seemingly not among the involved party. What punishment can flow for this crime and the court's finding that wouldn't be levied otherwise.
The indica of respect and legitimacy of a court is if their rulings are abided. Convince Israel a court with no Israelis should be the final arbitrator of their nations course of acts.
If you've shifted your claim to "Israel doesn't respect the ICJ" then yeah of course, they clearly have no respect for international law but that is a very different claim to what you posted earlier
For the sake of clarity is my claim is that most nations won't accept the legitimacy of any ICJ ruling against them as there is no practicable means of holding a nation to account. A judiciary without an executive is an exercise in futility.
There is no crime without a consequence.
Any nation at the point of which informed reasonable third parties declare them to have committed war crimes isn't likely to just slap their knee and say "you know what, my bad" after a ICJ ruling.
It's one thing to respect the ICJ when you are a third party. It's another when you are in the nation subject.
If the ICJ declared that many European countries violated human rights by not allowing criminals defendants to face their accusors, I doubt many of them would reform their justice system.
Ah well again, that's a different claim. The court is respected but everyone knows they have no enforcement powers. Their strength is entirely diplomatic
I think what's missing here is the existence of legal precedence. The UN had an arms embargo on apartheid South Africa starting in the 70s, so there's precedent for that.
Fun fact: Israel violated the South Africa arms embargo. Big time.
Clearly, enforcement is the weak part of international law.
Soooooo surprised to find Israel working against the international community thou :-)