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[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world -1 points 3 months ago

What are the non-capitalist countries doing to fight climate change?

Hunting and gathering, mostly. When the superpowers are capitalists, everyone is capitalist. Anyone who thinks China isn't capitalist hasn't bought anything off Amazon in the last decade.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Buddy capitalism is a specific production system not when you do trade

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Capitalism is basically when another private citizen or private company can take you on as a wage laborer.

If you can go get “a job” which is when you can put known work for known money consistently, and the one hiring you is someone other than the government, you’re in a capitalist place.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Capitalism requires state subservience to the market as well, which doesn't exist in China.

[-] jlou@mastodon.social 2 points 3 months ago

Huh, there are worker coops and 100% ESOPs as alternatives to capitalism that can exist within capitalism @memes

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Literally every corporation is an alternative to capitalism existing writhing capitalism.

A corporation is a centralized command economy built in accordance with the credo “from each according to his capacity; to each according to his need”.

Capitalism exists at the scale of an economy. It does not exist within companies, except in the black market for office supplies in the places that don’t supply enough.

[-] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Capitalism is a system of property relations and labor relations. It is conceivable to not have those property relations and labor relations in a firm. However, a corporation doesn't do that as the employer solely appropriates the entire positive and negative result of production i.e. the property rights to the produced outputs and liabilities for the used-up inputs. In a worker coop, the workers jointly appropriate the fruits of their labor. Capitalist property relations aren't present @memes

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