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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 177 points 3 months ago

The sad part is that the idea behind DLCs (to develop further content for a game already released, in exchange for additional money) is reasonable. Or it would be, if shitty developers didn't abuse it to the point that it stopped being "downloadable content" to become "dumb and lazy cashgrab".

I also think that CA isn't just being benign with this statement, or his whole "let us not be arseholes" approach towards development. He's being smart; player trust might be hard to measure but it has direct impact on word-of-mouth advertisement and piracy, so it's basically the difference between "everybody knows it, plenty bought it" and "the few ones who know it pirated it".

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 53 points 3 months ago

Another excellent example of this working is Factorio.

The original game doesn't cost a fortune, it's made by a small extremely dedicated team. They polished it so hard the shine made everything else look like vanta black. Playing Factorio ruins other games because the depth and quality of everything else is so poor in comparison.

The game came out in like 2013 early access. Full release completed in 2020. A decade after initial launch, they are going to offer a DLC, that will cost money.

Absolutely happy to pay for a DLC for that perfection.

[-] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 20 points 3 months ago

I'm not happy to pay money for that DLC.

Are you kidding me? Already have 1400 hours in the game. And if this DLC is gonna double the base game, I'm screwed.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Yeah factorio doesn't cost money, it costs you years of your life

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I already spend so much time on Rimworld and Stellaris, if I get Factorio I’m sure my gf will leave me and I’ll be found fossilized in front of a monitor

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yup that's a good trinity, those wow and Minecraft are what I spent the most time doing in my life lmao

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago

I'm at 5500 hours and haven't played since Jan 2023...

I'm so fucked

[-] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 6 points 3 months ago

Drugs might be the better option at this point.

[-] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago
[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

IMO Wube (Factorio's devs) is a lot like ConcernedApe, when it comes to not violate the players' trust. That's why for example Factorio never goes on sales - because the people there believe that it would be disrespectful to charge a larger price to some than others, simply because the others delayed buying it. (Cough Paradox Interactive aka Hipsters' EA cough cough)

They also have the decency to offer you a demo so you can make an informed decision before buying it, in a clear contrast with certain companies that expect you to buy it blind.

About the DLC: I'm one who typically pirates games, mind you, but I'm probably buying it, just like I did mit the base game. The base game isn't incomplete or anything like that; fuck, people compare it with crack for a reason - it's functional, polished, and fun to the point of addictiveness. And the FFF (devlogs) clearly show enough content to be worth it.

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep.

I pirated Factorio way back when it first came out (0.72?) and I actually didn't like it. It was... Bad.

A few months later someone suggested I give it another go, so I pirated it again. It was a lot better. Like way better. I did a couple of months and was like .. this is soooo good I'm buying it.

I will pre buy the dlc the moment it's available.

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