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this was incredibly common in all of europe until surprisingly late. you can still see how they added the toilet later in lots of apartments in budapest. i think paris had apartments like this until like the 70s?
might be why it's more common to have the toilet in a separate small room, instead of in the bathroom. the bathroom came inside the house first, then later the toilet. IIRC people who were used to shitting outside their home were leery of the idea because it seemed unhygienic to have the place you shit inside your home.
OTOH, our communist-built apartments all had toilets inside, i think. the ones that needed retrofitting were older buildings.
Also, you know what struck me as extremely unhygienic the time I went to France? Having no place to wash your hands in the small shitting rooms.
yeah, that's common too, and it's a tragedy. but the new trend is to put the shitter in the bathroom, which is also awful, with shitwater flying everywhere when you flush.
Do toilets not have lids in Europe?
of course they do. people dont always put them down, and also, even with the lid down, toilets spit shitwater. dont be fooled.
seriously someone needs to invent a negative pressure toliet lid or something. not sure if a rubber seal would be good there would need to be a vent somewhere to allow air in but not out
yeah,
fine, ok, but those apartments had showers right?
probably bathtubs you can shower in. shower stalls were not a thing i saw in homes as a child, only in like pool change rooms, summer camps, that sort of thing.
note that this is early 90s hungary, i have no idea what the shower/bath situation looked like elsewhere