1655
submitted 1 year ago by Woland@lemm.ee to c/world@lemmy.world

For some women in China, "Barbie" is more than just a movie — it's also a litmus test for their partner's views on feminism and patriarchy.

The movie has prompted intense social media discussion online, media outlets Sixth Tone and the China Project reported this week, prompting women to discuss their own dating experiences.

One user on the Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu — a photo-sharing site similar to Instagram that's mostly used by Gen Z women — even shared a guide on Monday for how women can test their boyfriends based on their reaction to the film.

According to the guide, if a man shows hatred for "Barbie" and slams female directors after they leave the theatre, then this man is "stingy" and a "toxic chauvinist," according to Insider's translation of the post. Conversely, if a man understands even half of the movie's themes, "then he is likely a normal guy with normal values and stable emotions," the user wrote.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Krystal Ball on breaking points mentioned it just wasn't a great movie and kinda ham fisted pseudo-feminism.

Idk haven't watched it, wife and I are both just like "meh"

[-] MrSqueezles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There's literal direct to frame exposition about expectations for appearance put on women by Barbie. Meanwhile, a fucking ripped and constantly flexing Ryan Gosling spends 90% of the movie shirtless. Yes, it's completely ham fisted and spends most of its time justifying its existence and letting you know it understands itself when it clearly doesn't.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Ryan Gosling constantly flexing was the best part of that movie

His outfit in the end was, in fact, cool.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a good time

[-] poopknife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because maybe... just maybe... it was also critiquing and making satire of the expectations from a ken? and emasculation? the mental effects of always being seen as a himbo? as well as how the company's marketing idea of strong women was also enforced without consent and thereby removing agency as barbies had to fit into the box the boardroom made as well as the kens? i feel like I hear a whoosh.

[-] MooseLad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Did you somehow miss the entire exposition near the end of the movie? The Kens learn to respect themselves, do what they like, and learn to be themselves instead of attaching their identity to macho bullshit and how Barbie views them. It was a pretty big scene. Gosling comes to grips that Barbie doesn't love him the way he wants and that he shouldn't value himself based on how she feels about him. He even covers up with a tie dye "I'm Kenough" hoodie, ditching his fake persona.

[-] Axium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, a fucking ripped and constantly flexing Ryan Gosling spends 90% of the movie shirtless.

The movie isn't being hypocritical, Ken is supposed to reflect the negative stereotypes and expectations put upon men by patriarchy, and the double-sided sword male stereotypes are. Ken both desires the respect and recognition they give, whilst breaking down over the emotional suppresion and hardy appearances they force upon guys.

Ken's Lines from the penultimate musical number: "I have feelings that i can't explain, driving me insane" "Am i not hot when I'm in my feelings?" "Is it my destiny to live and die a life of blond fragility?"

[-] MrSqueezles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Great, so how about we level the movie out with a Barbie with a huge rack, a low cut top, and a rocking ass just hanging out since her attractiveness and sexiness are major themes? Or how about not either one Barbie or Ken and just make them regular attractive people with clothes on please? And if we are going to have Ken be a significant character, give him the ability to not be a passive doofus jerk about every single thing, whose only self driven character progression is toward awfulness. Maybe he can learn anything without Barbie explaining it to him.

The movie is bad. It never heard of, "Show, don't tell." It's also obviously sexist. It's impossible to miss that there are many Barbies and Kens and all Barbies are great unless they're somehow tricked into being oppressed and all Kens are fucking morons who, when left to their own devices, fuck everything up. These are pretty major plot points and I didn't appreciate them.

Just a note, I have zero problems with horny movies, but if you're trying make a point about people, "having", to be sexy, be consistent.

load more comments (2 replies)
this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
1655 points (94.5% liked)

World News

39040 readers
1011 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS