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[-] j_roby@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 year ago

It's a good meme, but that show had far too much overt and normalized misogyny in it. Watching it these days is cringey as fuck.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

It's important to understand cultural context in old shows. You don't need to agree with them or find enjoyment in every single thing of a show.

For example, The Honeymooners from the 50s openly joked about domestic violence ("pow, right in the kisser"), but the show was still pretty endearing overall.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Well, Married with Children was making fun of that. And a lot of other things, too. It was an anti-sitcom before Seinfeld perfected the idea.

[-] Feirdro@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All in the Family did it first. The problem with both shows is it’s real hard to tell satire from actually espousing conservative views and sexism.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Is it though? Was that a problem with the Stephen Colbert Show too?

[-] fhqwgads@possumpat.io 1 points 1 year ago
[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All I'm reading here is some people weren't capable of getting the joke. That's on them. Those of us that can grasp humor had no problems. And with The Colbert Report if you didn't get the joke you probably were the joke.

Comedy should never be dumbed down for the people that can't understand it.

[-] fhqwgads@possumpat.io 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair, I don't think satire in any way is bad, or that it should be dumbed down - but there are often legitimate issues with the way it's seen to the point of it becoming a meme.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's on the person that isn't capable of nuance, like @db2 said. There really isn't much else to say. If someone can't understand a joke its thier own fault. Boohoo.

[-] veroxii@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The cultural context for myself as a teenage boy was that Christina Applegate was in it.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yep, she may have been my first real teenage crush lol

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[-] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Sorry, best I can offer you is a flippant observation about decade old media perceived only through the myopic lens of progressive youth shielded from the realities of culture in America.

[-] Rom@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In fairness it punched both ways. For every complaint Al made about his nagging money-spending wife, Peggy dunked on his poor performance in bed or inability to aim at the toilet.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I can't hear Peggy without seeing Leela anymore

[-] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

“Fryyy”

Bet you read it in her voice lol

[-] 520@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is true but I would argue that you're supposed to watch it like you would watch It's Always Sunny. You're supposed to tell from the moment they open their mouths that these people are assholes and you're not supposed to root for them

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

lol yeah, these guys were definitely not the Huxtables

[-] 520@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

At least the vileness was out in the open and not laced in the puddin'

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

I heard the voice when I read that. Don’t eat the pudding!

[-] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It's impossible for me to watch these days

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