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submitted 4 months ago by j4k3@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Science is "empirically complete" when it is well funded, all unknowns are constrained in scope, and (n+1) generations of scientists produce no breakthroughs of any kind.

If a hypothetical entity could encompass every aspect of science into reasoning and ground that understanding in every aspect of the events in question, free from bias, what is this epistemological theory?

I've been reading wiki articles on epistemology all afternoon and feel no closer to the answer in the word salad in this space. It appears my favorite LLM's responses reflect a similar understanding. Maybe someone here has a better grasp on the subject?

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[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

::: spoiler I appreciate the argument, but I do not think it is necessarily the case. There is a difference between knowing enough background to infer truth, versus active domination of information. One of the key aspects of this is to also define all information with statistics where no single source is absolute or over valued.

I'm certainly struggling with how to define intent and what sensory inputs are needed in such a system while keeping it outside of authoritarian, dystopian, or utopian. Ultimately, the future will require far more scientific knowledge and it will eventually encompass data on this scale in a post age-of-discovery era. Our present ideals are largely based on our history and limitations. The idea that we have made such exponential progress necessitates a revised set of limitations. We must acknowledge both the good and the bad consequences of progress and find amicable solutions. I believe that assuming such a system is totalitarian falls short of reality. While I fault the present world governments considerably in their present state, overall things are not as bad as the past, yet by the measures of writers from 150 years ago everything about the present life without extreme egalitarianism and self sufficiency where everyone has a tract of arable land is a dystopian nightmare. At the same time, go through some life altering event at the hands of someone else that leaves you physically disabled, like what I have experienced. One learns of the true extent of modern medicine when all the experts can't even diagnose what is wrong, let alone address it; after seeing every expert from San Diego to LA and even the disreputables. No one uses the scientific method for diagnosis. All treatments for pain are correlative nonsense based on low sigma cherry picked data without any form of unbiased peer review. Every little is actually known about biology in the present. We have only barely begun to start taking shitty notes about the low hanging fruit of science in an absolute sense. I'm interested in asking questions about life will be like from the other side of this knowledge gap. It is a bit naive to assume it is possible to do so. The difference in time and information is far greater than a Neanderthal in a cave wondering about life 20k years later in the present. Our present culture is completely lacking in this perspective of time, and it is a major source of our problems and mistakes in the present. We are not very advanced. There is an enormous amount of progress to be made, but we stagnate for the benefit of a corrupt establishment and fallaciously pedantic media. We largely fail to see our limitations, against a backdrop of our potential.

So, there are a mountain of laws in the present that represent a similar totalitarian level of micromanagement. Off the top of my head, that is the closest analog I can think of where a system is large in scope, but managed selectively without being overly invasive for the average person.

I prefer the idea of kindness and empathy when it comes to how a system understands the individual in both actions and psychology. I do not believe other humans can encompass such a scope, but other systems are capable of such. I'm working on the idea of how a system that understands cognitive dissonance thoroughly might govern. What if you could trust an entity with finding the best solutions for everyone without oversimplification or biases beyond the fundamental unalienable rights. I believe that such a set of unalienable rights statistically does exist without arbitrary writings of a small committee for document or corpora. We have many conflicting variables in the present when such a thing is considered, but in a very distant future that assumes massive advances in knowledge, most of these conflicts are de facto resolved. That is just my take, so far. I still find it very challenging to imagine the implementation in practicality, but I still believe in an amicable solution that is not utopian idealism.

there is nothing more useless than a downvote and no conversation on a constructive and creative reply - the worst of semi anonymous internet nonsense.

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